So what are the 2024 changes?

[WasserGKuehlt]

some of the stuff is clearly fantasy - other things I tried to make a bit outlandish but not too outlandish so you had to think about it for a bit

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I do expect range to increase and weight to come down as a general rule over time as battery technology continues to progress. Macan will be very telling in this space when it's official specs come to light…

TBH you started on the nose with the 500mi range. The rest of the list just confirmed it.

Sure, more range would be great but I'm finding that matters less and less to me. The one upcoming trip I'm fretting about is opening day of SR20 over the North Cascades. 0 chargers in that corner of the map, and what would normally be a long day in the saddle (~500miles for the full loop) has to be an overnight trip. Even so - with the lack of chargers and the Taycan's pitiful consumption - I know I'll make it just fine. And I've just learned recently that, due no doubt to the signing of IRA into law, EVCS announced fast DC chargers on either side of the pass. Range is overrated.

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[PNWTaycan4S]

TBH you started on the nose with the 500mi range. The rest of the list just confirmed it.

Sure, more range would be great but I'm finding that matters less and less to me. The one upcoming trip I'm fretting about is opening day of SR20 over the North Cascades. 0 chargers in that corner of the map, and what would normally be a long day in the saddle (~500miles for the full loop) has to be an overnight trip. Even so - with the lack of chargers and the Taycan's pitiful consumption - I know I'll make it just fine. And I've just learned recently that, due no doubt to the signing of IRA into law, EVCS announced fast DC chargers on either side of the pass. Range is overrated.

SR20 is a spectacular drive. I'm camping out in the Taycan on SR20 opening day to beat you to the charging station(s?)! ?
Electric Vehicle Charging - Cascade Loop

 

[DougFrisk]

had lunch w/Porsche North America lead EV representative - he disclosed many things about Taycxan .2 - you'll find them interesting

• 500 miles range
  • battery is 10% less total capacity vs. Taycan .1 - so this is big improvement in efficiency
• overall curb weight of the vehicle is now 350 lbs _LESS_ than AWD panamera (accounts for some of the improved range) - so this EV is "lighter" than it's ICE equivalent - but still has instant EV torque and low center of gravity
• sports chrono supports Track precision app (as does curren Taycan) but now full 'track software' with dash cam support for recording track sessions with full data set/telemetry
• 1/2 price of current Taycan price points - many previous options now included
• more volume production - so easier to order - no dealer ADM if there is plenty of supply
• longer battery warranty 16 years, 500,000 miles (battery replaced if it loses 10% of original capacity)
• no cold weather range penalty (actually goes further in the cold)
• feels like a 911
• has cargo room of the Cayenne
• seats 5 adults comfortably
• new PMCC 2.0 that actually cools your home while charging the car
• 19.2 kW charging option included
• 900V/500 kW charge rate - plug&charge for all networks - included 6 years free charging
  • 100% accurate charging status for sites to use during Navigation routing - dynamic adjustment
    • automatic "trouble ticket" notification sent to charging site vendor if people have destination in nav that requires their site, but had to reroute - so some sort of "demand based" updates to vendors so they know people are being re-routed and can send service team to get charging site back online.
  • ability to place a charging stall reservation 'in dash' for when you arrive no waiting
• charging guarentee - charge session will start in 2 min with no problems or you get $50 credit for each "problem" charging session - credit applied to future Porsche purchases
• 5% to 95% in 12 minutes
• 0-60 in 1.9 seconds
• 4 separate motors - one for each wheel
• really really trick torque vectoring/handles with 4 separate motors - you will be amazed how this car handles
• top speed 225 mph (reduced range to 280 miles at that speed)
• one click ordering @ MSRP via Porsche Corp. website - no more dealer issues
• phone as a key support
• OTA updates
• wifi hotspot support
• charge scheduling software mere mortals can fathom and setup
• metal roof, pano-roof, and open/close glass roof options
• one pedal driving is now an 'option' in individual mode of you like - still off by default - only supported in range, normal (individual mode) - not supported in Sports or Sports Plus "mode"
• endurance track events no problem - car should run full pace for 1 hour before it needs a "rest' if battery consumption holds up
• porsche is working to have fast charging available for "free" at the top 75 tracks world wide for track days
• PCM 7 is a major upgrade - Prosche targeted Tesla/BMW/Apple/Andrio levels of user experience, performance, security, and responsiveness
• more material choices for interior choices - targeting top end luxury options to rival all other vendors
• fully adjustible suspensiion - soft like a rolls royce, or as stiff and responsive as a Cupcar - 16 levels of adjustment for all levels of ride quality.
• some active aero elements from the GT3 RS (mostly the front end downforce tricks) - so car is super responsive on turn in and handles like it's on rails
• native supercharger support - no adapter required in North America (already true in Europe) - and the entire network is available by agreement with Tesla (working to extend same deal to Audi - but for now this is porsche only)
  • supercharger integration is part of the plug&charge support noted above
• fast charging on both sides of the vehicle - not just one side
• Matrix Headlights fully supported in North America like in Europe
• he says Innodrive will "suck less" - but will have to wait for 2026 or later for more improvements beyond what's done in .2 Taycan
• some trim can be upgraded via OTA FOD style
  • 4 to 4S "upgrade"
  • Turbo to TurboS "upgrade"
  • GTS to Turbo "upgrade"
  • sorry RWD taycan's - lack the front motors so can't do it
  • but some limited support to "bump" your trim from one to the next level via OTA FOD - will be pricy but possible
• no more launch control - car is always ready for "max performance" - so you're never caught out at a stop light cause you were not in sports plus with both feet on the pedals - just mash the right pedal and GO!!! Always!

all in all it's going to be great - we ran out of time during lunch for him to go over more - but Porsche feels super excited for this iteration and thinks it will blow your socks off - they are working on some loyalty program for existing Taycan owners, they will offer like 80% of your original invoice price (no more than MSRP) toward purchase of a new Taycan - they really don't want the existing owners "feeling left out" - so they want to transition most of the existing owners into the .2 Taycan so there is no hard feelings.

it's going to be awesome - I can't wait!

When did Porsche hire Elon as their North American EV brand rep?

 

[WasserGKuehlt]

SR20 is a spectacular drive. I'm camping out in the Taycan on SR20 opening day to beat you to the charging station(s?)! ?
Electric Vehicle Charging - Cascade Loop

Thanks very much indeed for this link - was not aware of its existence. I've been plotting various options over ABRP, ChargePoint and PlugShare (some of which just say "impossible"). The most promising plan to me looks to be:
- depart home at some high SoC
- full/100% charge in Mt Vernon
- straight shot to Pine Near RV Park in Winthrop - 140 miles, estimated SoC at arrival 38%.

I'll have to drive efficiently on the flats, but should have enough reserve for a sprint or three on the climb to Diablo. The descent from Wa Pass will be very fun, fast and efficient, so it should all work out well.

 

[RAHRCR]

had lunch w/Porsche North America lead EV representative - he disclosed many things about Taycxan .2 - you'll find them interesting

• 500 miles range
  • battery is 10% less total capacity vs. Taycan .1 - so this is big improvement in efficiency
• overall curb weight of the vehicle is now 350 lbs _LESS_ than AWD panamera (accounts for some of the improved range) - so this EV is "lighter" than it's ICE equivalent - but still has instant EV torque and low center of gravity
• sports chrono supports Track precision app (as does curren Taycan) but now full 'track software' with dash cam support for recording track sessions with full data set/telemetry
• 1/2 price of current Taycan price points - many previous options now included
• more volume production - so easier to order - no dealer ADM if there is plenty of supply
• longer battery warranty 16 years, 500,000 miles (battery replaced if it loses 10% of original capacity)
• no cold weather range penalty (actually goes further in the cold)
• feels like a 911
• has cargo room of the Cayenne
• seats 5 adults comfortably
• new PMCC 2.0 that actually cools your home while charging the car
• 19.2 kW charging option included
• 900V/500 kW charge rate - plug&charge for all networks - included 6 years free charging
  • 100% accurate charging status for sites to use during Navigation routing - dynamic adjustment
    • automatic "trouble ticket" notification sent to charging site vendor if people have destination in nav that requires their site, but had to reroute - so some sort of "demand based" updates to vendors so they know people are being re-routed and can send service team to get charging site back online.
  • ability to place a charging stall reservation 'in dash' for when you arrive no waiting
• charging guarentee - charge session will start in 2 min with no problems or you get $50 credit for each "problem" charging session - credit applied to future Porsche purchases
• 5% to 95% in 12 minutes
• 0-60 in 1.9 seconds
• 4 separate motors - one for each wheel
• really really trick torque vectoring/handles with 4 separate motors - you will be amazed how this car handles
• top speed 225 mph (reduced range to 280 miles at that speed)
• one click ordering @ MSRP via Porsche Corp. website - no more dealer issues
• phone as a key support
• OTA updates
• wifi hotspot support
• charge scheduling software mere mortals can fathom and setup
• metal roof, pano-roof, and open/close glass roof options
• one pedal driving is now an 'option' in individual mode of you like - still off by default - only supported in range, normal (individual mode) - not supported in Sports or Sports Plus "mode"
• endurance track events no problem - car should run full pace for 1 hour before it needs a "rest' if battery consumption holds up
• porsche is working to have fast charging available for "free" at the top 75 tracks world wide for track days
• PCM 7 is a major upgrade - Prosche targeted Tesla/BMW/Apple/Andrio levels of user experience, performance, security, and responsiveness
• more material choices for interior choices - targeting top end luxury options to rival all other vendors
• fully adjustible suspensiion - soft like a rolls royce, or as stiff and responsive as a Cupcar - 16 levels of adjustment for all levels of ride quality.
• some active aero elements from the GT3 RS (mostly the front end downforce tricks) - so car is super responsive on turn in and handles like it's on rails
• native supercharger support - no adapter required in North America (already true in Europe) - and the entire network is available by agreement with Tesla (working to extend same deal to Audi - but for now this is porsche only)
  • supercharger integration is part of the plug&charge support noted above
• fast charging on both sides of the vehicle - not just one side
• Matrix Headlights fully supported in North America like in Europe
• he says Innodrive will "suck less" - but will have to wait for 2026 or later for more improvements beyond what's done in .2 Taycan
• some trim can be upgraded via OTA FOD style
  • 4 to 4S "upgrade"
  • Turbo to TurboS "upgrade"
  • GTS to Turbo "upgrade"
  • sorry RWD taycan's - lack the front motors so can't do it
  • but some limited support to "bump" your trim from one to the next level via OTA FOD - will be pricy but possible
• no more launch control - car is always ready for "max performance" - so you're never caught out at a stop light cause you were not in sports plus with both feet on the pedals - just mash the right pedal and GO!!! Always!

all in all it's going to be great - we ran out of time during lunch for him to go over more - but Porsche feels super excited for this iteration and thinks it will blow your socks off - they are working on some loyalty program for existing Taycan owners, they will offer like 80% of your original invoice price (no more than MSRP) toward purchase of a new Taycan - they really don't want the existing owners "feeling left out" - so they want to transition most of the existing owners into the .2 Taycan so there is no hard feelings.

it's going to be awesome - I can't wait!

Daveo4ev for President!

A masterpiece indeed…

 

[Scandinavian]

had lunch w/Porsche North America lead EV representative - he disclosed many things about Taycxan .2 - you'll find them interesting

• 500 miles range
  • battery is 10% less total capacity vs. Taycan .1 - so this is big improvement in efficiency
• overall curb weight of the vehicle is now 350 lbs _LESS_ than AWD panamera (accounts for some of the improved range) - so this EV is "lighter" than it's ICE equivalent - but still has instant EV torque and low center of gravity
• sports chrono supports Track precision app (as does curren Taycan) but now full 'track software' with dash cam support for recording track sessions with full data set/telemetry
• 1/2 price of current Taycan price points - many previous options now included
• more volume production - so easier to order - no dealer ADM if there is plenty of supply
• longer battery warranty 16 years, 500,000 miles (battery replaced if it loses 10% of original capacity)
• no cold weather range penalty (actually goes further in the cold)
• feels like a 911
• has cargo room of the Cayenne
• seats 5 adults comfortably
• new PMCC 2.0 that actually cools your home while charging the car
• 19.2 kW charging option included
• 900V/500 kW charge rate - plug&charge for all networks - included 6 years free charging
  • 100% accurate charging status for sites to use during Navigation routing - dynamic adjustment
    • automatic "trouble ticket" notification sent to charging site vendor if people have destination in nav that requires their site, but had to reroute - so some sort of "demand based" updates to vendors so they know people are being re-routed and can send service team to get charging site back online.
  • ability to place a charging stall reservation 'in dash' for when you arrive no waiting
• charging guarentee - charge session will start in 2 min with no problems or you get $50 credit for each "problem" charging session - credit applied to future Porsche purchases
• 5% to 95% in 12 minutes
• 0-60 in 1.9 seconds
• 4 separate motors - one for each wheel
• really really trick torque vectoring/handles with 4 separate motors - you will be amazed how this car handles
• top speed 225 mph (reduced range to 280 miles at that speed)
• one click ordering @ MSRP via Porsche Corp. website - no more dealer issues
• phone as a key support
• OTA updates
• wifi hotspot support
• charge scheduling software mere mortals can fathom and setup
• metal roof, pano-roof, and open/close glass roof options
• one pedal driving is now an 'option' in individual mode of you like - still off by default - only supported in range, normal (individual mode) - not supported in Sports or Sports Plus "mode"
• endurance track events no problem - car should run full pace for 1 hour before it needs a "rest' if battery consumption holds up
• porsche is working to have fast charging available for "free" at the top 75 tracks world wide for track days
• PCM 7 is a major upgrade - Prosche targeted Tesla/BMW/Apple/Andrio levels of user experience, performance, security, and responsiveness
• more material choices for interior choices - targeting top end luxury options to rival all other vendors
• fully adjustible suspensiion - soft like a rolls royce, or as stiff and responsive as a Cupcar - 16 levels of adjustment for all levels of ride quality.
• some active aero elements from the GT3 RS (mostly the front end downforce tricks) - so car is super responsive on turn in and handles like it's on rails
• native supercharger support - no adapter required in North America (already true in Europe) - and the entire network is available by agreement with Tesla (working to extend same deal to Audi - but for now this is porsche only)
  • supercharger integration is part of the plug&charge support noted above
• fast charging on both sides of the vehicle - not just one side
• Matrix Headlights fully supported in North America like in Europe
• he says Innodrive will "suck less" - but will have to wait for 2026 or later for more improvements beyond what's done in .2 Taycan
• some trim can be upgraded via OTA FOD style
  • 4 to 4S "upgrade"
  • Turbo to TurboS "upgrade"
  • GTS to Turbo "upgrade"
  • sorry RWD taycan's - lack the front motors so can't do it
  • but some limited support to "bump" your trim from one to the next level via OTA FOD - will be pricy but possible
• no more launch control - car is always ready for "max performance" - so you're never caught out at a stop light cause you were not in sports plus with both feet on the pedals - just mash the right pedal and GO!!! Always!

all in all it's going to be great - we ran out of time during lunch for him to go over more - but Porsche feels super excited for this iteration and thinks it will blow your socks off - they are working on some loyalty program for existing Taycan owners, they will offer like 80% of your original invoice price (no more than MSRP) toward purchase of a new Taycan - they really don't want the existing owners "feeling left out" - so they want to transition most of the existing owners into the .2 Taycan so there is no hard feelings.

it's going to be awesome - I can't wait!

You must hve had a lot of Magic Mushrooms for lunch!

 

[xyeahtony]

New Video from PCarwhisperer.

2024 Porsche Taycan: Breaking Down the Changes We Can Expect For the Upcoming Model Year! - YouTube

But don't worry guys, there's definitely a secret magical facelift happening still for MY24 despite zero information except for one guy in a country that sells 25 porsches a month.

TLDR version of the video:

2024 Configurator Launched March 29th (we all knew this)
2024 Models begin production mid-june 2023 (we all knew this)
2024 Models arrive at Porsche dealers August 2023 (we all knew this)

 

[whitex]

New Video from PCarwhisperer.

2024 Porsche Taycan: Breaking Down the Changes We Can Expect For the Upcoming Model Year! - YouTube

But don't worry guys, there's definitely a secret magical facelift happening still for MY24 despite zero information except for one guy in a country that sells 25 porsches a month.

TLDR version of the video:

2024 Configurator Launched March 29th (we all knew this)
2024 Models begin production mid-june 2023 (we all knew this)
2024 Models arrive at Porsche dealers August 2023 (we all knew this)

You forgot the killer MY24 feature, optional leather trimmed cupholder rim!

 

[Icebergmikey]

So with Carrera White being discontinued next year, does that mean the value of the ones already produced will go up?! ?

 

[daveo4EV]

New Video from PCarwhisperer.

2024 Porsche Taycan: Breaking Down the Changes We Can Expect For the Upcoming Model Year! - YouTube

But don't worry guys, there's definitely a secret magical facelift happening still for MY24 despite zero information except for one guy in a country that sells 25 porsches a month.

TLDR version of the video:

2024 Configurator Launched March 29th (we all knew this)
2024 Models begin production mid-june 2023 (we all knew this)
2024 Models arrive at Porsche dealers August 2023 (we all knew this)

I like my list better.

 

[Bognar67]

So with Carrera White being discontinued next year, does that mean the value of the ones already produced will go up?! ?

It is CarrAra white.

 

[Jasper4S]

So with Carrera White being discontinued next year, does that mean the value of the ones already produced will go up?! ?

Not sure if will go up that much, but I'm sure you'll sell yours faster as it is a good alternative to a custom build price wise (PTS)

 

[SergeyIndy]

Since we are on this 2024 topic, anyone attempting to actually build the MY24 as I am seeing the configurator Standard Equipment is still work on progress and looks like a draft document that they update when they have time with drop downs intended to show details which for most is the same as the title, and some conflicting inclusions vs. package content.

For example, E-Mobility now stating that onboard is 11kW now (which makes sense) and Electric Sound is standard on a Turbo, however, Electric Sounds is still listed in the Performance Package.

 

[WasserGKuehlt]

But don't worry guys, there's definitely a secret magical facelift happening still for MY24 despite zero information except for one guy in a country that sells 25 porsches a month.

NZ is ahead of the time(s).

 

[Tooney]

Pcarwhisperer: 2024 Porsche Taycan: Breaking Down the Changes We Can Expect For the Upcoming Model Year!

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