"Test Proves Porsche Taycan Is The Best Road-Trip EV" - Article

[Tooney]

I will say it again. The only way to properly road trip Taycan in USA is to follow @thecoloradokid on the journey. Just don't collide with the same metal road obstructions he does.

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[Argo]

I thought you might have a problem with starting out at a functioning 350 kW charger. I know I did. That is a rare sighting out in the wild. The test was interesting but worthless for proving any CCS car us a road trip champ.

I feel your pain....

 

[Jonathan S.]

^ EA has wonderfully deceptive app maps with 350kW chargers. The reality on the ground though is usually ... different.

 

[Sly_North]

Except it has no autopilot functionality which is huge on road trips....

Depends if the road trip is on a straight highway over 500km/400 miles or if it's a Run To The Hills(*) and mountains. The later: no autopilot, thx.

(*)yes, pun intended, metal heads!

 

[Argo]

Depends if the road trip is on a straight highway over 500km/400 miles or if it's a Run To The Hills(*) and mountains. The later: no autopilot, thx.

(*)yes, pun intended, metal heads!

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[gtm]

I feel your pain....

Can you rub our noses in it just a little more. And my comment about not being a road trip champ should have stated "US road trip". Your map looks like a Tesla map would look in the US. And it's not really a lack of chargers. It's broken chargers, not enough at a site, 50 kW is DC charging but not fast. The car itself is spectacular on a road trip. Effortlessly eats miles. Charging not so spectacular.

 

[thecoloradokid]

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@Argo with the mic drop.

Holy $hit that is amazing.

 

[snstevens]

I feel your pain....

Man oh man! I only wish my map looked as good as this....

 

[snstevens]

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Stop it - you're killing me with images like this!!

 

[Zepkingltj]

I am going to disagree with this assessment because if I am on a road trip in my Chevy Silverado RST why do I have to charge to 80% every time? If I am planning to skip a charger and do a 300 mile leg then yes, it will take me 30 to 40 minutes to get enough juice into the truck to make that distance. However, if I am only going 150 miles to the next charger then charging will only take me 20 minutes, just like the Taycan. Picture below shows what the Chevy truck will onboard in 20 minutes at an Electrify America charger. I usually average 1.8kWh per mile doing 75mph in the truck, so in a long distance race between the new Taycan and the Chevy Silverado they would be neck and neck.

Yeah Silverado is a beast. It would just cost a bunch more since the battery size is so big. But it is incredibly impressive.

This is their testing procedure, by the way.


Testing procedure:

• Tire pressure set to manufacturer recommendation
• Car starts at 10% SoC with battery fully preconditioned
• Plug in to DCFC, record handshake time between car and charger communication
• Charge for precisely 15 minutes starting when the contactors click
• Use climate control while charging to maintain cabin temperature
• Enter highway, gentle acceleration to 80 mph GPS-verified
• Climate set to 68-72 (eco mode if possible)
• Avoid drafting trucks/other vehicles
• Use ~1/2 of replenished range then turn around
• Set fast charger as destination to precondition battery
• Maintain 80 mph until battery SoC moves from 11% to 10%

Both Taycan and Silverado charging curves are unmatched. But if what you state is true, the Silverado would still be behind the Taycan due to the Taycan getting 193 miles at 80mph with a 15 minute charge and the Silverado getting 185.9 miles at 75mph and at 20 minutes of charge. This is me basing it off your Electrify America image there.

The Taycan would still win. Both though are stupidly impressive. Even a 2024 Lucid Air Grand Touring only pulled 155ish miles.

 

[Argo]

Can you rub our noses in it just a little more. And my comment about not being a road trip champ should have stated "US road trip". Your map looks like a Tesla map would look in the US. And it's not really a lack of chargers. It's broken chargers, not enough at a site, 50 kW is DC charging but not fast. The car itself is spectacular on a road trip. Effortlessly eats miles. Charging not so spectacular.

Sorry about your nose, I am really not meaning to gloat.
The Swiss/European charging infrastructure is very well developed and keeps improving.
It sounds like your experience with the US chargers is not so good.
I prefer Ionity due to the quality of equipment/speed of charging and there is no time based charging cost when using the Porsche charging subscription.
See below for a "local" map selection of the various brands of chargers filtered for >270kwh. All tend to work with the Porsche charge card. You can then add in the numerous 50/22/11kwh units that are in store parking spaces, hotels and restaurants. Whether you're on a road trip and need to quickly pump in 80kw or out for lunch and need a 20kw top up there are plenty of options.
Range anxiety, begone.

 

[Scandinavian]

The test methodology does not match road trip driving, simply the first leg of a trip that just happens to start with a functioning 350kW charger with an available tower. And right at the end of the article is "Just make sure your route has the right chargers." Glad to see the significantly improved charging speeds on J1.2 but I'd be happier to see reliable CCS charging. The improved charge curve will make no difference at all when the 350kW tower is delivering 120kW and you have to wait for a tower to free up.

I guess you reflect on the conditions you have experienced in the US!

Here in mainland Europe there is no such problems. Most Ionity chargers work as the should and only at very busy weekends or holiday periods, is there a risk of a queue. If so there are plenty of other HPC stations around providing not 350 kW but certainly 300kW!

Even a J1.1 Taycan will have amazing charging experience driving from Southern Spin to Northern parts of Norway or Sweden along major routes.

Also look at the podcast from Fully Charged with the CEO of Ford when he did a road trip in an ETransit in Europe. He was stunned at the charging experience, as well as the simplicity and reasonable cost on his credit card!

 

[gtm]

I guess you reflect on the conditions you have experienced in the US!

Here in mainland Europe there is no such problems. Most Ionity chargers work as the should and only at very busy weekends or holiday periods, is there a risk of a queue. If so there are plenty of other HPC stations around providing not 350 kW but certainly 300kW!

Even a J1.1 Taycan will have amazing charging experience driving from Southern Spin to Northern parts of Norway or Sweden along major routes.

Also look at the podcast from Fully Charged with the CEO of Ford when he did a road trip in an ETransit in Europe. He was stunned at the charging experience, as well as the simplicity and reasonable cost on his credit card!

I migrated to the Taycan from a Tesla S. Range/charging anxiety lasted one trip with the Tesla. The charging network worked. Available, reliable, connected in real time to the car. I, foolishly, assumed the CCS1 network could not be as bad as the internet made it seem. To be fair I have never run out of battery, but have been worryingly close, and often had some kind of problem. No CCS1 car that is road tripped, if there is a schedule to be kept or children along for the ride, is a good idea in the US. Long lunches while charging at 50kW is not the worst thing but my wife and I are lucky by not having a rigid schedule. We don't have children to entertain while I'm playing with PlugShare to find an alternative charging location (after my meticulous advance planning didn't work out as anticipated).

The charging infrastructure does seem to be slowly improving so there is hope. In the mean time CCS1 road trips require a certain level of flexibility. I'll try and change my attitude, whine less and be thankful that EV travel is possible.

 

[Argo]

I guess you reflect on the conditions you have experienced in the US!

Here in mainland Europe there is no such problems. Most Ionity chargers work as the should and only at very busy weekends or holiday periods, is there a risk of a queue. If so there are plenty of other HPC stations around providing not 350 kW but certainly 300kW!

Even a J1.1 Taycan will have amazing charging experience driving from Southern Spin to Northern parts of Norway or Sweden along major routes.

Also look at the podcast from Fully Charged with the CEO of Ford when he did a road trip in an ETransit in Europe. He was stunned at the charging experience, as well as the simplicity and reasonable cost on his credit card!

To add one word of caution, there are some unsavoury characters hanging around the Ionity chargers in Northern France....

 

[Scandinavian]

In German one could say


”kochgeschirr Aspiranten”

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