UK public charging - FT article

[Fish Fingers]

Just read an interesting article in the FT on the subject of public charging.

https://www.ft.com/content/70449749-c54f-4a37-8033-efd567d868e6

It surprisingly states the UK as mid table for public chargers.

I think the main issue (not stated) is that something like 1/3 are in London, with the picture worse in the rest of the country.

So it's not a national issue, it's more a regional issue and as stated, the real issue is price of EVs.

*Maybe this Govt don't know we do actually have electricity in the North, as often cited reason round here for them cancelling HS2 to Mcr as well.

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[Midlifecrisis]

Just read an interesting article in the FT on the subject of public charging.

https://www.ft.com/content/70449749-c54f-4a37-8033-efd567d868e6

It surprisingly states the UK as mid table for public chargers.

I think the main issue (not stated) is that something like 1/3 are in London, with the picture worse in the rest of the country.

So it's not a national issue, it's more a regional issue and as stated, the real issue is price of EVs.

*Maybe this Govt don't know we do actually have electricity in the North, as often cited reason round here for them cancelling HS2 to Mcr as well.

This is behind an expensive looking paywall

 

[n3ophyte]

This is behind an expensive looking paywall

Never a problem. Go here to read it …

https://archive.ph/vgSqh

 

[simcity]

18 cars : 1 public charge point, puts the UK currently better than at mid-table as shown in that article.

Ultra rapid hubs are also set to continue to expand even more rapidly than they did in 2023 which in itself was impressive with a 145% YoY increase.

 

[simcity]

Unbeknown to many BEV driving folks and certainly most ordinary non-BEV drivers, the UK is currently in the midst of the ultra-rapid hub "gold-rush" expansion. We are growing these sites at almost 150% per year and accelerating.

I've been monitoring the pipeline of new sites and planned sites over at Speak EV and its nothing short of astounding:

https://www.speakev.com/threads/charging-locations-at-planning-stages.179192/#replies

Some examples....

Sainsbury's launched their in-house ultra-rapid charging brand, Smart Charge, on Friday. They have already built and opened 23 hub sites in their own car parks, using Kempower 150kW and 300kW charge points and plan to expand that to 100 sites and 750 charge units by the end of the year.

Furthermore they are changing plans on petrol filling sites and making them EV-only charging sites instead:



MFG have plans to build 3000+ 150kW and 300KW charge points at 600 sites by 2030. As of the end of year they had built 130 sites and 550 charge points.

 

[Fish Fingers]

Unbeknown to many BEV driving folks and certainly most ordinary non-BEV drivers, the UK is currently in the midst of the ultra-rapid hub "gold-rush" expansion. We are growing these sites at almost 150% per year and accelerating.

I've been monitoring the pipeline of new sites and planned sites over at Speak EV and its nothing short of astounding:

https://www.speakev.com/threads/charging-locations-at-planning-stages.179192/#replies

Some examples....

Sainsbury's launched their in-house ultra-rapid charging brand, Smart Charge, on Friday. They have already built and opened 23 hub sites in their own car parks, using Kempower 150kW and 300kW charge points and plan to expand that to 100 sites and 750 charge units by the end of the year.

Furthermore they are changing plans on petrol filling sites and making them EV-only charging sites instead:



MFG have plans to build 3000+ 150kW and 300KW charge points at 600 sites by 2030. As of the end of year they had built 130 sites and 550 charge points.

Really interesting link.

The map of proposed sites is very encouraging.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewe...ll=52.882020330821824,-2.8413229328619978&z=6

 

[marsh3377]

Unbeknown to many BEV driving folks and certainly most ordinary non-BEV drivers, the UK is currently in the midst of the ultra-rapid hub "gold-rush" expansion. We are growing these sites at almost 150% per year and accelerating.

I've been monitoring the pipeline of new sites and planned sites over at Speak EV and its nothing short of astounding:

https://www.speakev.com/threads/charging-locations-at-planning-stages.179192/#replies

Some examples....

Sainsbury's launched their in-house ultra-rapid charging brand, Smart Charge, on Friday. They have already built and opened 23 hub sites in their own car parks, using Kempower 150kW and 300kW charge points and plan to expand that to 100 sites and 750 charge units by the end of the year.

Furthermore they are changing plans on petrol filling sites and making them EV-only charging sites instead:



MFG have plans to build 3000+ 150kW and 300KW charge points at 600 sites by 2030. As of the end of year they had built 130 sites and 550 charge points.

But the prices are extortionate - literally 10 times the price of home charging. The government needs to stop the profiteering if it’s genuinely serious about encouraging the EV adoption.

 

[EGGY41]

Are they making a profit ?

 

[senwar]

But the prices are extortionate - literally 10 times the price of home charging. The government needs to stop the profiteering if it’s genuinely serious about encouraging the EV adoption.

I’ve used public charging properly for the first time this weekend.

it’s cost me more for a 450 mile round trip than I’ve spent in previous 8 weeks/1900 miles. Crazy.

 

[anonymouse]

But the prices are extortionate - literally 10 times the price of home charging. The government needs to stop the profiteering if it’s genuinely serious about encouraging the EV adoption.

Has anyone looked at the actual numbers? While 85p/kWh might feel extortionate to drivers, if it costs the companies half a million to put in some 350kW chargers and they are not fully utilised, plus they have to pay for maintenance, engineering, helpdesks, billing etc - what price would actually cover this and generate an adequate return?

Anyone seen a business case for high power chargers?

 

[tigerbalm]

It surprisingly states the UK as mid table for public chargers.

At least the UK is on a massive build out right now – IONITY and others. The UK is well on its way to being "sorted" public charing wise. Meanwhile your neighbours here in Ireland is swimming in fancy charing plan PDF's but with most new stations held up in our bullshit planning laws: Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere.

Also we have a strangely persistent rumour that EV's will take all our electricity (despite our plans to be Europes largest exporter of green wind generated electricity) and we won't be able to boil a kettle.

We also remain absolutely opposed to Nuclear Power but have no issue with importing shit tons of it from UK and soon France.

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