"Porsche Determines 85 KWh Is The Ideal Battery Size For Its Electric Cars" Articles

[feye]

https://cleantechnica.com/2021/12/2...the-ideal-battery-size-for-its-electric-cars/

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/202...y-range-performance-sustainability-26791.html

If they are serious about this - which I think they are not - then I will not buy another Porsche.

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[Tooney]

Bathroom breaks? Who can drive 500 miles without stopping for a break?

-ThinkMac-

Rumor is @Jhenson29 carries a supply of empty Pringles cans for his one-stop 1000 mile trips in his Silverado.

 

[Jhenson29]

Rumor is @Jhenson29 carries a supply of empty Pringles cans for his one-stop 1000 mile trips in his Silverado.

I’m not sure that sounds liquid tight. Maybe for solids….?

Actually, just about everyone I work with is like this. Stop as little as possible. We’re also paid by the mile while driving. ? But it’s carried over to how I just think of travel in general.

I did hear a story about one person using an empty bottle to reduce stops while driving to Canada. ? I requested to not be given that vehicle anymore.

 

[Jhenson29]

Bathroom breaks? Who can drive 500 miles without stopping for a break?

-ThinkMac-

Am I the only one that doesn’t have to use the bathroom every 2 hours?

500 miles/7-8 hours is nothing.

On long flights (South Africa, China, Australia, New Zealand, Thailand (through Tokyo)) I typically don’t leave my seat.

 

[Pozuelo]

You must have the performance plus XLR bladder option ! and probably drink only a sip during your long treks. Not my case, indeed !

 

[Tooney]

Am I the only one that doesn’t have to use the bathroom every 2 hours?

500 miles/7-8 hours is nothing.

On long flights (South Africa, China, Australia, New Zealand, Thailand (through Tokyo)) I typically don’t leave my seat.

Wait a few years.

 

[PanameraFrank]

The problem with relying on fast charging is that the current & near future infrastructure is going to be CRUSHED w too many cars within 2 years. EA is already low on 350 chargers for the current # of EVs.

If Porsche sticks an 85 in the Macan I won't be buying one.

 

[DerekS]

Range is king, happy to have the performance battery in mine.

 

[Jrkennedy37]

Am I the only one that doesn’t have to use the bathroom every 2 hours?

500 miles/7-8 hours is nothing.

On long flights (South Africa, China, Australia, New Zealand, Thailand (through Tokyo)) I typically don’t leave my seat.

I’m on same page as you. When needed I can make it work and have done a few 1000 mile pushes with 1-2 stops.

What’s also not acknowledged here is the speed traveling x distance. It’s easier to push 400-500 miles between stops while averaging 80+ mph (Texas speed limits) than cover that distance at 65mph, which I’ve read on this forum provides optimum range on the Taycan. I imagine this is even more relevant to the German customers with their unrestricted stretches of road.

 

[JimBob]

I’m on same page as you. When needed I can make it work and have done a few 1000 mile pushes with 1-2 stops.

What’s also not acknowledged here is the speed traveling x distance. It’s easier to push 400-500 miles between stops while averaging 80+ mph (Texas speed limits) than cover that distance at 65mph, which I’ve read on this forum provides optimum range on the Taycan. I imagine this is even more relevant to the German customers with their unrestricted stretches of road.

When you get older you may learn about the phrase "prostate problems".

 

[Tooney]

When you get older you may learn about the phrase "prostate problems".

Correction: will learn

 

[JimBob]

Correction: will learn

Ha! You're already there.

 

[manitou202]

The problem is a 500 mile range in an EV isn't actually 500 miles between stops on a long road trip.

You will only fill the battery to 80-85% at charging stops and then drain it to 15% before charging again. So you are really only using 65-70% of the battery with an ideal range of 325-350 miles. Add in other factors like weather and it might be closer to 250-275 miles.

In my opinion 500 miles of nominal range is ideal and should be the long term goal of more premium EVs.

 

[Jrkennedy37]

When you get older you may learn about the phrase "prostate problems".

Lol, my biggest issue with the long pushes currently is the caffeine. Can only put down a couple espressos or Red Bulls before searching for a stop.

 

[feye]

Am I the only one that doesn’t have to use the bathroom every 2 hours?

I often stop on trips, for coffee and bio break. The big range battery gives you other advantages, not only when you travel.

Nevertheless this Porsche blog post is the most idiotic thing ever come out of Porsche. Lets say suddenly there is a new kind of battery on the market with 5 times the capacity, same weight, same size, same charging, power, etc, simply 5 times kWh capacity. Porsche would say no, because our customers are stupid and only want a small battery.

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