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Completely lost in choosing between sedan and sport turismo + spec

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1) Any thoughts on the sedan vs sport turismo choice
personally, I found I needed to carry around more 'stuff' when the kids were younger... strollers, car seats etc... it would have had to be the CT/ST for me then.

now they are older, out of car seats and generally need less baggage, the saloon is the way to go
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Taycan is the jack of all trades but master of none. (I mean that as mostly a compliment btw). One of the things it offers is practicality. While not perfect, the different body styles make an attempt to “meet you half way” towards your intended use case (Family car, light off-roader/all weather, 2 seater, Grand Tourer, etc). Personally, I think all of the Taycan forms sedan/ST/CT look really good. Selecting one that doesnt lean towards your use case is a mistake in my opinion. I respect the decision to buy the model that looks best to your eye, even if it’s not optimal for your use case.…although I would advise against it. This platform already has its limitations. Over time you and/or your frequent passengers may come to regret it.
 

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personally, I found I needed to carry around more 'stuff' when the kids were younger... strollers, car seats etc... it would have had to be the CT/ST for me then.

now they are older, out of car seats and generally need less baggage, the saloon is the way to go
Once the youngest is 6 years old things change. No need for bags, strollers, spare clothing, … I remember after that holidays were much easier.
 

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I myself prefer the styling of the Sports Turismo. It looks more of an aggressive hatchback than an estate.

However go with what you feel looks better, you don’t want regrets on what could have been.
 


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I went for the saloon. I have two teenage kids. Next time I’ll get an ST. I got a dog recently. I’ve bought a seat cover for the back seat. I also opted the 5 seat option. I’d do that again. Handy for 5 on short trips. Problem with the saloon for me is I can’t fit my bike in without taking both wheels off. It’s just too tight with one wheel on. Also I’d get the ST for the doggo too next time. Personally the lines of the saloon look better than the ST but I think the ST is more practical. My Taycan is my daily.
 

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I went for the saloon. I have two teenage kids. Next time I’ll get an ST. I got a dog recently. I’ve bought a seat cover for the back seat. I also opted the 5 seat option. I’d do that again. Handy for 5 on short trips. Problem with the saloon for me is I can’t fit my bike in without taking both wheels off. It’s just too tight with one wheel on. Also I’d get the ST for the doggo too next time. Personally the lines of the saloon look better than the ST but I think the ST is more practical. My Taycan is my daily.
I might be silly or missing something, but why not get a bike carrier?
 

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I don‘t understand the appeal of station wagons, but i see they’re popular in Europe. Does anyone make a fake woodgrain kit for a Taycan yet? ;)
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At the end of the day, I reached the same conclusion during my internal mental debate between the sedan and the "wagon." Even though I have a couple kids and sometimes need to haul their crap, I concluded that a station wagon is a station wagon, even if it is a Porsche. IMHO, buying the "family truckster" puts one on a very slippery slope toward giving up on life. Rather than calling the wagon the "CT", Porsche could have just as easily named it the "TayCan't." Putting aside my personal psychological baggage from the 1970s/1980s, the CT is a bad-ass ride and if Porsche had introduced it first I would be driving one. There are however a couple points to consider if one is torn between the practicality, i.e. extra crap hauling space, of the CT vs the devilishly good looks of the sedan. Really consider your personal use case; after 18 months of ownership, like the majority of Taycan sedan owners on this forum, I have never needed to use the frunk. In fact, there are threads on the forum dedicated to possible uses for the extra frunk storage space. This tells me that the sedan already has plenty of real world practicality for the vast majority of owners. The other point to consider (albeit somewhat subjective) is that you need to be a lot more careful with color and wheel selections on the CT. For example, black tends to exaggerate the long roofline of the CT and Mission-E wheels somehow look out of place on a station wagon. Finally, Porsche does not yet offer either OEM woodgrain treatments or spoked hubcaps, and owners will therefore have to go aftermarket to achieve the full effect!
 


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I might be silly or missing something, but why not get a bike carrier?
I don’t want a roof rack on the car. Range and looks. And I don’t want to faff on taking it on and off every weekend. That’s the reason for me mate.
 

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Many years ago one of my old colleagues had a 5-series estate as his company car. He was a keen hiker and mountain biker and when the X5 came out he asked for one.

He was super disappointed.
He said it was an "inverse Tardis" and he could get less in it than the 5-series estate because of bulky wheelarches. It was slower, handled much worse and used far more fuel.

As soon as he could he went back to a 5-series estate and never considered an X5 again.
BMW, who supplied the cars, were surprised since the X5 was a super popular model - further evidence vehicles are very much a fashion item for many people I think.
Forgive my ignorance- apologies for the off topic question but I’ve been meaning to ask UK folks this: Where do the terms “estate” and “saloon” derive from? Prior to joining this forum many months ago I haven’t heard of these before.
Thx in advance for the history lesson ?
 

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Forgive my ignorance- apologies for the off topic question but I’ve been meaning to ask UK folks this: Where do the terms “estate” and “saloon” derive from? Prior to joining this forum many months ago I haven’t heard of these before.
Thx in advance for the history lesson ?
No idea of the origin, they are the normal English words for these two types of cars and always have been afaik.

It seems different words are used in American for some reason, though this isn’t all that unusual.
 

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Forgive my ignorance- apologies for the off topic question but I’ve been meaning to ask UK folks this: Where do the terms “estate” and “saloon” derive from? Prior to joining this forum many months ago I haven’t heard of these before.
Thx in advance for the history lesson ?
I assume (and am too lazy to Google confirmation ? ) that "estate" (and for that matter, "station wagon") has similar origins to "shooting brake", which was also used at least until the 1960's to describe similar vehicles, most often ones with real or fake wooden panels. "Shooting brake" predates cars, and was used to describe horse-drawn carriages that the landed gentry used to transport their hunting paraphernalia. "Station wagon" was another horse-drawn carriage, used to transport posh people or their belongings and purchases to and from their nearest railway station. "Estates" would be a general purpose carriage used in the running and maintenance of their country estate.
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ADDITION- "Coupe" similarly has origins in horse-drawn carriages- A coupé was "a four-wheeled carriage with outside front seat for the driver and enclosed passenger seats for two persons". It was a cut (= coupe in French) down version of a 4 seat carriage.
 
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No idea of the origin, they are the normal English words for these two types of cars and always have been afaik.

It seems different words are used in American for some reason, though this isn’t all that unusual.
True… there are definitely different words used between the two “languages” to describe the same or similar thing. I just googled it and came up with the below. No idea if it’s accurate though ?

The word 'saloon' comes from the French 'salon', which means a large room. The term 'saloon car' was originally used to refer to the luxury carriages on a train. It was adopted by British carmakers in the early part of the 20th Century to describe cars with an enclosed passenger compartment.
 

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I assume (and am too lazy to Google confirmation ? ) that "estate" (and for that matter, "station wagon") has similar origins to "shooting brake", which was also used at least until the 1960's to describe similar vehicles, most often ones with real or fake wooden panels. "Shooting brake" predates cars, and was used to describe horse-drawn carriages that the landed gentry used to transport their hunting paraphernalia. "Station wagon" was another horse-drawn carriage, used to transport posh people or their belongings and purchases to and from their nearest railway station. "Estates" would be a general purpose carriage used in the running and maintenance of their country estate.
EDITED to correct muddled original post
ADDITION- "Coupe" similarly has origins in horse-drawn carriages- A coupé was "a four-wheeled carriage with outside front seat for the driver and enclosed passenger seats for two persons". It was a cut (= coupe in French) down version of a 4 seat carriage.
thanks for the background ?. Interesting stuff.
 

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True… there are definitely different words used between the two “languages” to describe the same or similar thing. I just googled it and came up with the below. No idea if it’s accurate though ?

The word 'saloon' comes from the French 'salon', which means a large room. The term 'saloon car' was originally used to refer to the luxury carriages on a train. It was adopted by British carmakers in the early part of the 20th Century to describe cars with an enclosed passenger compartment.
What about the term sedan or limousine?
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