Might have made a mistake!

[MarkR]

I went from a BMW X5 45e M Sport to a Taycan CT4. I really loved the BMW, however I have never looked back thinking I had made a mistake. The X5 was a motorway beast and was just perfect for long trips, but the Taycan is a different experience and with the right approach, is a great car to live with, despite some of its shortcomings and glitches. The Taycan is one of the best electric cars available in my opinion, but you have to have a different mindset to what you are used to for electric driving. Any car will have a claimed mileage and in the real world, is difficult to achieve. I have never achieved them, regardless of the fuel type, and I do drive with this in mind.

I would say give it a bit more time, and try to embrace the whole experience. Hopefully you will come round to the electric way of thinking, but if not, then each to their own, which I respect. I fully understand that not everyone will warm to electric cars, but even as a bit of a petrolhead, I have no regrets choosing the Taycan.

I hope it works out for you.

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[m32taycanmiatake]

I went from a BMW X5 45e M Sport to a Taycan CT4. I really loved the BMW, however I have never looked back thinking I had made a mistake. The X5 was a motorway beast and was just perfect for long trips, but the Taycan is a different experience and with the right approach, is a great car to live with, despite some of its shortcomings and glitches. The Taycan is one of the best electric cars available in my opinion, but you have to have a different mindset to what you are used to for electric driving. Any car will have a claimed mileage and in the real world, is difficult to achieve. I have never achieved them, regardless of the fuel type, and I do drive with this in mind.

I would say give it a bit more time, and try to embrace the whole experience. Hopefully you will come round to the electric way of thinking, but if not, then each to their own, which I respect. I fully understand that not everyone will warm to electric cars, but even as a bit of a petrolhead, I have no regrets choosing the Taycan.

I hope it works out for you.

Thanks.

I really want to like it, hopefully the up coming trip will help..

Maybe deleting Auto Trader will help ?

 

[F1Ruaraidh]

Thanks.

I really want to like it, hopefully the up coming trip will help..

Maybe deleting Auto Trader will help ?

Once you have your first big trip in the bag, life gets easier. 7 years all over Europe EVing. Winter and Summer.

I guarantee with small kids, you'll be glad of the breaks! Watch if skiing with a roofbox, that will hit your range more.

I offset the Winter range drop by changing to 20" Winter wheels from 21" Summers.

270 is great Winter range, my 22 Turbo S won't do 200. Significantly worse than my 7yo Model S!! ?

 

[ze_shark]

I miss the M3 for many reasons but the main reason is the blatant lie regarding claimed miles on a full charge, I’m now some 4000 miles in so believe it to be run in, I’m also aware it’s winter here but the drop off is nuts! Claimed 370 real world 270 and that’s me trying yo get the best out of it!

Is it a lie if it is a statutory requirement to report against WLTP protocols in any piece of corporate communication ?
WLTP is a poor standard, but OEMs have no choice but following it.

Rest is BEV reality. Adapting is the only way.

 

[anonymouse]

Don’t understand your gripe. The charging plan you showed looks perfectly reasonable. Why bother to look at (and fret about) the number of miles shown on the guessometer?

To drive safely you should stop for at least 15 min every 2 hours — as you are in the UK I assume you are familiar with Rule 91 of the Highway Code.

i have done 60,000 happy miles of long haul touring in Europe and I have no idea what the theoretical range of my car is. I just stop regularly And keep an eye on battery %. The data from my car shows that I rarely needed more than 165 miles between stops so any Taycan is perfectly good for Eurotouring.

Make a plan, then just enjoy the drive!

 

[McgR]

Don’t understand your gripe. The charging plan you showed looks perfectly reasonable. Why bother to look at (and fret about) the number of miles shown on the guessometer?

To drive safely you should stop for at least 15 min every 2 hours — as you are in the UK I assume you are familiar with Rule 91 of the Highway Code.

i have done 60,000 happy miles of long haul touring in Europe and I have no idea what the theoretical range of my car is. I just stop regularly And keep an eye on battery %. The data from my car shows that I rarely needed more than 165 miles between stops so any Taycan is perfectly good for Eurotouring.

Make a plan, then just enjoy the drive!

You are correct of course, after years of experience. I think we have all been there just before starting on our first long road trip with the family. Anxious if everything will work out. Not beiing stranded with an empty battery with an angry wife on the passenger seat who you convinced a couple of months before that driving electric is perfectly possible and just takes a couple of charges.

 

[cityhpper]

You are correct of course, after years of experience. I think we have all been there just before starting on our first long road trip with the family. Anxious if everything will work out. Not beiing stranded with an empty battery with an angry hysterical wife on the passender seat who you convinced a couple of months before that driving electric is perfectly possible and just takes a couple of charges.

There, fixed that for you.

 

[McgR]

There, fixed that for you.

Thats a choice made a couple of years earlier ?

 

[whitex]

You are correct of course, after years of experience. I think we have all been there just before starting on our first long road trip with the family. Anxious if everything will work out. Not beiing stranded with an empty battery with an angry wife on the passenger seat who you convinced a couple of months before that driving electric is perfectly possible and just takes a couple of charges.

I find that wives will find something to complain about no matter what happens on the trip. If it's not the 20 minute charging stop, it will be the stop of go traffic you find yourself in, or being stuck having to drive a detour due to an accident ahead of you, or the bad weather you're driving through. So whether you had a diesel mile muncher which can drive for 12 hours straight, or an electric car requiring charging every 2-3 hours, it doesn't matter. With the diesel, the complaint would be not enough bathroom/food stops. The key to happiness is to to empathize with the wife and just keep on rolling towards the destination. Once you get there, she will forget it all, find something new to complain about - complaining seem to be a source of pleasure for the fair sex, which also explains the old saying that women want others to listen and commiserate with them over their complaints, rather than trying to propose solutions (an approach stereotypically attributed to males).

 

[A.Mayor]

I find that wives will find something to complain about no matter what happens on the trip. If it's not the 20 minute charging stop, it will be the stop of go traffic you find yourself in, or being stuck having to drive a detour due to an accident ahead of you, or the bad weather you're driving through. So whether you had a diesel mile muncher which can drive for 12 hours straight, or an electric car requiring charging every 2-3 hours, it doesn't matter. With the diesel, the complaint would be not enough bathroom/food stops. The key to happiness is to to empathize with the wife and just keep on rolling towards the destination. Once you get there, she will forget it all, find something new to complain about - complaining seem to be a source of pleasure for the fair sex, which also explains the old saying that women want others to listen and commiserate with them over their complaints, rather than trying to propose solutions (an approach stereotypically attributed to males).

Ahahaha, I just don’t know … by the incessant and hysterical complaints going on here, one might think that it’s the “wives” doing exactly what they do best … finding something to complain and panic about, no matter what, and with little regard for “solutions” …

 

[Murph7355]

How old/big are your kids? Do they even all fit in the car with all your stuff? tbh I wouldn't use mine for lengthy trips 5-up no matter how old they are. The only car I've been happy to do that in is the XC90.

With my family, stopping every 3-4hrs actually makes journeys more pleasant and it's inevitable at least one will need to stop in that duration. And if they're asleep, well staying asleep for 20mins during a top up is no issue.

My OH was fretting about this sort of thing, but an impromptu trip to Cornwall quelled it. The upsides (quietness, ease of topping up etc etc) all outweighed the downs.

IME speeds over 80mph really start to hit mileage. Taycans also seem to take a bit for the guessometer to tune in to your driving.

You bought to save money. You have to be honest with yourself about the compromise on the other side of that arrangement and roll with it. Otherwise you did make a mistake, but it's not the car's fault.

You also need to be honest with yourself about what being a "petrolhead" really means. A lot of people seem to bring this up and the only conceivable difference is engine noise and all the stuff manufacturers have been trying to get rid of in ICE cars! It's quite odd.

 

[m32taycanmiatake]

Don’t understand your gripe. The charging plan you showed looks perfectly reasonable. Why bother to look at (and fret about) the number of miles shown on the guessometer?

To drive safely you should stop for at least 15 min every 2 hours — as you are in the UK I assume you are familiar with Rule 91 of the Highway Code.

i have done 60,000 happy miles of long haul touring in Europe and I have no idea what the theoretical range of my car is. I just stop regularly And keep an eye on battery %. The data from my car shows that I rarely needed more than 165 miles between stops so any Taycan is perfectly good for Eurotouring.

Make a plan, then just enjoy the drive!

Ok Dad

How old/big are your kids? Do they even all fit in the car with all your stuff? tbh I wouldn't use mine for lengthy trips 5-up no matter how old they are. The only car I've been happy to do that in is the XC90.

With my family, stopping every 3-4hrs actually makes journeys more pleasant and it's inevitable at least one will need to stop in that duration. And if they're asleep, well staying asleep for 20mins during a top up is no issue.

My OH was fretting about this sort of thing, but an impromptu trip to Cornwall quelled it. The upsides (quietness, ease of topping up etc etc) all outweighed the downs.

IME speeds over 80mph really start to hit mileage. Taycans also seem to take a bit for the guessometer to tune in to your driving.

You bought to save money. You have to be honest with yourself about the compromise on the other side of that arrangement and roll with it. Otherwise you did make a mistake, but it's not the car's fault.

You also need to be honest with yourself about what being a "petrolhead" really means. A lot of people seem to bring this up and the only conceivable difference is engine noise and all the stuff manufacturers have been trying to get rid of in ICE cars! It's quite odd.

Thanks.

ATM I can roll with 5 up as my kids are 9/9/4, I’ve had a few 4x4s over the years including a T8, mega car one of the most understated and underrated cars out there imo…and have considered another..

You’re right I did change because of the savings but money isn’t an issue but it doesn’t matter how much money you have saving money is always attractive that’s why I pushed the button on the Taycan, being a porsche nut I thought I would give it a go..

I guess I’m looking at any excuse to bin the Taycan off but listening to some great comments i need to give it a bit of time.

Also I’ve been driving it now for 3 months everyday, as soon as spring lands I’ll get the toys out which might suppress the desire to swap out of it.

If I don’t gel after this trip I’ll probably buy a new Rs6 as the family are getting bigger now and it’s the last time it will be available with the V8…

 

[anonymouse]

Ok Dad

No need to be so snarky. If you post here, you will get views from those with deep experience. If you just want to have a moan and not hear other experiences, maybe find another forum?

I’m looking at any excuse to bin the Taycan off

There are some on here who would be ready to do this, because they have had repeated software failures and breakdowns. On a bad day I'm in that camp too. But the need for charging stops is not a reason to go back to a petrol car.

 

[Speuk]

Yep 270 at this time of year is about right for spirited driving. The claimed 368 mile WLTP numbers are never achievable in real life driving. The 20" rims will give you another couple of miles.

I've had my J.1.2 4S ST since the end of November and I've been getting between 285 and 310 miles depending on temperature and type of trip. If I drive for fun the 270 ish.

 

[Murph7355]

The car's not the issue when it comes to "new shiny"....and you're not sounding in the right mindset to give it a go at all. I foresee the second you get the first "are we there yet" witterings from one of the other 4 seats, the car will start to be the problem

RS6's are much bigger cars. I like them, but not a patch on a Taycan (incidentally, why a 4S CT? From the other cars you note I'd have thought a GTS/Turbo/Turbo S ST would have been a "better" choice). And if my old RS4 was anything to go by, use your right foot and you will be visiting petrol stations a lot, and at great cost.

I also consider myself a petrolhead, and love a good petrol engine. But the truth is there have been very few of those ever made. And if we're really honest, electric motors are better in pretty much every way than ICE. What we grew up thinking was exciting was an ICE coming into its power band and making frantic noise doing so. But it was always a poor compromise for the actual performance side of things. (It's a bit like the rude boys with their massive turbos, loving the boost coming in with commensurate farting of wastegates. Amusing once, then utterly tedious as they end up half a mile behind waiting for the power).

As soon as family lugging becomes a primary use case, trying for anything really performance related is going to be difficult. There are only 4 of us (kids 12 and 9), so the Taycan fits. But for longer distances, the XC90 is the better option really. (Had we been a couple of years later in needing to replace the old one we'd probably have an EX90...or if that Cornwall trip had happened sooner, an EV9).

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