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+1 on tire pressures.

Of-course this is all relative. Most of my motorcycles need tires at between 3,000 and 5,000 miles. My Lotus Elise rarely got to 6,000 miles over 6 sets front and rear (and that is a light car).
I have a high tolerance to low mileage tire swaps
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I’d be deeply unhappy if that happened to me after just 6k on normal road driving. My iPace wasn’t that far off the performance of a 4S and a similar weight, the Michelin Pilot Sports were still roadworthy after 23k though coming up to a change. Granted I’d expect less than that on the Taycan but not close to a quarter distance ?
 

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21" Pirelli P-Zero Elect here.

265 front: about 20.000km.
305 rear: about 17:000km.

2020 Turbo S, lot of spirited driving, summer and mild winters here in the Netherlands.
Excellent roads.
 

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Camber affects where the wear occurs. Toe affect the rate as which the tire is wearing.

Have the toe settings on the front wheels checked. Typically most cars are set up to have 0 toe (tires pointed straight) or positive (tires pointed slightly in) for stability. I like to have my front tires to be set slightly negative (tires pointed out) for quicker response.

But if you are burning through your front tires and you don't drive aggressively where you are loading the front tires heavily during turning, then I'd suspect suspension issues related to the toe rods.
 

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The front Michelin Pilot 4’s on my 4S are about even with my rears at 13,000 miles. Look good on the outside, but starting to get chewed up on the inside. Will be changing soon. Wondering if my constant driving in sport plus mode makes negative camber worse. Thankfully my wife drives around in normal suspension mode.
 


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The front Michelin Pilot 4’s on my 4S are about even with my rears at 13,000 miles. Look good on the outside, but starting to get chewed up on the inside. Will be changing soon. Wondering if my constant driving in sport plus mode makes negative camber worse. Thankfully my wife drives around in normal suspension mode.
I have the same tires with the same problem with similar mileage. All four are down to bare cord on the inside at 15,000 miles, while the treads have >50% life remaining. (I would have replaced them sooner but didn't notice the wear on the inside.) When the replacement tires arrive, I'm going to have camber reduced. Now that you mention it, I'm thinking that the alignment needs to be done at the same ride height that I normally drive in (low).
 

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One of the things which changes with rideheight on most car suspension systems is the camber goes more negative.
This develops camber thrust which is simply tyre grip and wear being used to try to compress the car, which seems to be a bit of a pointless waste to me for normal driving.
The best wear is likely in the "normal" setting, though I am guessing it can't be too bad to be low since the "range" mode is low.

Anyway it seems daft to me to run a car in sport or sport plus when mainly driving on straight roads.
 

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I have done 16700 miles and my tires still have life
 


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Really don't like the sound of that as I also have 265/35 ZR21 on the front and 305/30 ZR 21 104Y on the rear maybe consider another make in that size if possible just got my car car 1st March so will keep checking also just got price for spare set same as originals from local garage £265 front and £282 rear after reading post
Is that what Porsche Preston quoted per tyre out of interest?
 

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Just had all 4 replaced at 13,000 miles, 20" Perilli Cinturato P7 Elect Blue. Rears were on the wear bars 1.6mm and fronts were 2.5mm.
 

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Is that what Porsche Preston quoted per tyre out of interest?
Hi no price was from local garage have not asked dealer my thought process just getting a spare set in case going forward with everything going on maybe not available so seriously thinking of buying a set of 20 inch wheels /tyres from dealer as back up plan or am I overreacting ?
 
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Camber affects where the wear occurs. Toe affect the rate as which the tire is wearing.

Have the toe settings on the front wheels checked. Typically most cars are set up to have 0 toe (tires pointed straight) or positive (tires pointed slightly in) for stability. I like to have my front tires to be set slightly negative (tires pointed out) for quicker response.

But if you are burning through your front tires and you don't drive aggressively where you are loading the front tires heavily during turning, then I'd suspect suspension issues related to the toe rods.
 
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Thanks for your detailed response. I'm pretty sure that the suspension remains the only unexplored explanation. I will get Porsche to check it out.
 

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P zeros are notoriously soft and burn through them rapidly in many cars Including my 911 turbo S and several of my Ferraris (458, 488GTB and Spider). Unfortunately my incoming F8 will also have them but I generally always swap them out for Michelin's on first change.
 

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2020 Turbo with 13,300 mi. Tires on all 4 (Conti. All Season 20 inch wheel) run at door pressure showing very little wear all around. Remaining tread about 7-8 mm. Most miles on I-5 at 70-80 mph.
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