Tesla S v Taycan

[Kev946]

This was taken by someone on a local website to show this vandalism does happen at the public charging points. Also, as the flap sticks out a LOT i can see how it can be damaged. It’s personal choice at the end of the day and aesthetics.

Exactly. I saw someone on the Taycan Facebook grouo who had the same issue. This was the main reason I spec'd them.... and they look cool lol

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[Scandinavian]

1. Will i miss the Tesla SuperCharger Network, 90,000 miles in 4 years without any problems at all, has anyone else who drives reasonable distances gone from Tesla to Taycan and regretted it because of charging issues?
2. Would i need to have the 22kw on board AC charger to benefit from my 3 phase Tesla charger at home or would charging speed be quick enough without this?
3. The car i am looking at does not have the Electric charging covers fitted, is this just a gimmick or is it a great feature?

Hi,

1. I have done a fair bit of Tesla mileage using Superchargers with my M3P. Will you miss it? I think you will miss the easy way to start charging at the SuC. I do not have Plug and Charge, so need to use my Card or the app to start charging. A bit more fiddly and sometimes there are connection problems that way, but 90% of time it works directly. You may also need to check the routes you normally drive to look for suitable HPC chargers in the UK. You have covered quite a bit of miles I see. Here in Europe I have travelled 15000 miles in 2 years, and covered France, Northern Italy,Belgium, Netherlands, Southern UK, Switzerland, Germany, Denmark, Sweden and Norway. Never been any problems at all finding chargers > 200 kW (HPC).
If you check this website you can find chargers and planned chargers from Ionity. UK is not at the front of the roll out , but there are many other networks ( both in the UK and Europe). And new stations are popping up on a weekly basis, BP, Shell, Aral, Fastned, Gridserve etc.
https://ionity.ev-info.eu/countries

2. The 22 kW charger need? Expensive option and questionable. If you need more that a 60% charge at daily intervals than perhaps needed if you have off peak hours less than 5 hours per day? Otherways the Tesla Wall Connector works wonders.

3. Nice to have but not necessary. It can cause extra headaches and one more thing to go wrong, and i has its hiccups at times.

 

[gusone]

There was a recent post iic where the AC port was stuck open permanently. This meant the driver could not DC charge on the other side until repaired. Also didn't spec as it could go wrong. You don't see them on ice age cars.

 

[Deleted member 7514]

Quite, they fit into the gadget fan category IMO, not needed but some swoon over them.

They cost money, block the air curtain duct and are another thing to go wrong so not for me.

OTOH for some they are a mega cool gadget woth every penny.

You F1 guys managed them when we had refuelling on the cars ! (I miss that added bit of tactics…)

Thankfully we don’t need to refuel and be done in 10 seconds

 

[Archimedes]

Power charge port covers are the shizzle. Smaller, better looking, work great, and no streaks of dirt on the sides of the car.

 

[f1eng]

You F1 guys managed them when we had refuelling on the cars

Only after they became mandatory as a sop to sponsors who hated having a hole in the bodywork they couldn’t put a logo on. ?

When we started refuelling it was a performance thing and we didn’t have a hatch at all and we hated those stupid, pointless (from a racing perspective) hatches we had to use later.

 

[Deleted member 7514]

Only after they became mandatory as a sop to sponsors who hated having a hole in the bodywork they couldn’t put a logo on. ?

When we started refuelling it was a performance thing and we didn’t have a hatch at all and we hated those stupid, pointless (from a racing perspective) hatches we had to use later.

It made F1 so much more unpredictable and teams had to guess strategy in terms of how much fuel others were running. Even Ferrari strategists would have got a call right ! ?

 

[f1eng]

It made F1 so much more unpredictable and teams had to guess strategy in terms of how much fuel others were running. Even Ferrari strategists would have got a call right ! ?

Back then the Ferrari was the most likely to get the call right!
We started calculating optimum stop lap using practice and qualifying data at Benneton in 1993, I believe we were the first to use maths for it the other teams were still just guessing, certainly Williams still were.

Ross took the concept with him to Ferrari.

Everybody does it now and the number of parameters taken into account and use of real time data by the good software is amazingly effective now though you still have to have a good car.

The good calls are done by your software and you have to trust it. I fear Ferrari have been trying to second guess on the pit wall - that never works.

 

[Deleted member 7514]

Back then the Ferrari was the most likely to get the call right!
We started calculating optimum stop lap using practice and qualifying data at Benneton in 1993, I believe we were the first to use maths for it the other teams were still just guessing, certainly Williams still were.

Ross took the concept with him to Ferrari.

Everybody does it now and the number of parameters taken into account and use of real time data by the good software is amazingly effective now though you still have to have a good car.

The good calls are done by your software and you have to trust it. I fear Ferrari have been trying to second guess on the pit wall - that never works.

The unknown is the safety car… i feel red bull have used the sister AT team to their advantage sometimes but can never prove this..shouldn’t be able to have a junior team for transparency.

 

[JonS1234]

Hi everyone, brand new to this forum so still trying to find my way around, so apologies if this has been asked before. In a dilemma and asking for opinions please. Have owned a Tesla Model S since March 2018 and was fortunate enough to have got free supercharging from new. Placed order for new Tesla S back in June 2021 but despite several visits to Tesla dealer still no wiser as to when i may or may not see new car. Current Tesla has now covered 90,000 miles so im looking to replace and been looking at Taycan. I have Tesla charger fitted at home and also have 3 phase electricity so Tesla will charge at 51mph, so most nights even from empty will charge to full if i need it within 5 hours. With cost of electricity these days this is quite important as between midnight and 5am i am on a very cheap Kwh rate. It is too long a wait for a new Taycan so i am looking at a nearly new purchase. There are 3 questions / concerns i have really.
1. Will i miss the Tesla SuperCharger Network, 90,000 miles in 4 years without any problems at all, has anyone else who drives reasonable distances gone from Tesla to Taycan and regretted it because of charging issues?
2. Would i need to have the 22kw on board AC charger to benefit from my 3 phase Tesla charger at home or would charging speed be quick enough without this?
3. The car i am looking at does not have the Electric charging covers fitted, is this just a gimmick or is it a great feature?

Many thanks

Hola,
Figured I'd chime in here. I owned a fully loaded Taycan Turbo for just over 9 months and ended up selling it back to the dealer for $15k more than I paid for it.

I came from a 2018 Model 3 Performance and replaced the Taycan with a 2022 Model S Plaid. I'm still here as I'll probably get either the 718 replacement or the refreshed Taycan 2025/2026 maybe.

To answer your questions:
1. Yes you'll miss it. The Tesla car/charging network integration (particularly with the latest update) is fantastic. Electrify America/Canada is the Wild West and the other charging networks work sporadically so you always have a small hint of range anxiety on road trips. I managed to get caught out once and ended up with my flashy blacked out Taycan sitting at a small convenience store in the back end of nowhere for 6 hours while I got enough slow charge to continue my journey (something that has never happened with the Tesla Charging Network)
2. I had this and a TeslaTap mini, I was happy with the charging speed at home and everything just worked
3. I had the electric covers and found them a nice addition - high tech car with automagic accessories

Happy to answer any other questions you may have.

Oh, the reason why I decided to take the dealer up - the PCM was written by a child with crayons.. it was a truly terrible experience. It seems to be getting better and I think they are heading in the right direction.

 

[Fishy]

Hi,

1. I have done a fair bit of Tesla mileage using Superchargers with my M3P. Will you miss it? I think you will miss the easy way to start charging at the SuC. I do not have Plug and Charge, so need to use my Card or the app to start charging. A bit more fiddly and sometimes there are connection problems that way, but 90% of time it works directly. You may also need to check the routes you normally drive to look for suitable HPC chargers in the UK. You have covered quite a bit of miles I see. Here in Europe I have travelled 15000 miles in 2 years, and covered France, Northern Italy,Belgium, Netherlands, Southern UK, Switzerland, Germany, Denmark, Sweden and Norway. Never been any problems at all finding chargers > 200 kW (HPC).
If you check this website you can find chargers and planned chargers from Ionity. UK is not at the front of the roll out , but there are many other networks ( both in the UK and Europe). And new stations are popping up on a weekly basis, BP, Shell, Aral, Fastned, Gridserve etc.
https://ionity.ev-info.eu/countries

2. The 22 kW charger need? Expensive option and questionable. If you need more that a 60% charge at daily intervals than perhaps needed if you have off peak hours less than 5 hours per day? Otherways the Tesla Wall Connector works wonders.

3. Nice to have but not necessary. It can cause extra headaches and one more thing to go wrong, and i has its hiccups at times.

Hola,
Figured I'd chime in here. I owned a fully loaded Taycan Turbo for just over 9 months and ended up selling it back to the dealer for $15k more than I paid for it.

I came from a 2018 Model 3 Performance and replaced the Taycan with a 2022 Model S Plaid. I'm still here as I'll probably get either the 718 replacement or the refreshed Taycan 2025/2026 maybe.

To answer your questions:
1. Yes you'll miss it. The Tesla car/charging network integration (particularly with the latest update) is fantastic. Electrify America/Canada is the Wild West and the other charging networks work sporadically so you always have a small hint of range anxiety on road trips. I managed to get caught out once and ended up with my flashy blacked out Taycan sitting at a small convenience store in the back end of nowhere for 6 hours while I got enough slow charge to continue my journey (something that has never happened with the Tesla Charging Network)
2. I had this and a TeslaTap mini, I was happy with the charging speed at home and everything just worked
3. I had the electric covers and found them a nice addition - high tech car with automagic accessories

Happy to answer any other questions you may have.

Oh, the reason why I decided to take the dealer up - the PCM was written by a child with crayons.. it was a truly terrible experience. It seems to be getting better and I think they are heading in the right direction.

Many thanks for the replies, very helpful

 

[f1eng]

1. Yes you'll miss it. The Tesla car/charging network integration (particularly with the latest update) is fantastic. Electrify America/Canada is the Wild West and the other charging networks work sporadically so you always have a small hint of range anxiety on road trips. I managed to get caught out once and ended up with my flashy blacked out Taycan sitting at a small convenience store in the back end of nowhere for 6 hours while I got enough slow charge to continue my journey (something that has never happened with the Tesla Charging Network)
2. I had this and a TeslaTap mini, I was happy with the charging speed at home and everything just worked

Please note the OP is in England!

 

[TDinDC]

I like the electric port because the door is not in the way no matter how I am parked or the location of the charging cable. But, as with most things, if you didn't know that the other option existed, you likely would not miss it. To me, that is the litmus test for sorting wants from needs with respect to Porsche options. If you are an audiophile and you would be unhappy with the base stereo even if you did not know that another option exists, you should upgrade. If you are the kind person who thinks the base or even Bose is just fine, then Burmeister is a want, not a need.

 

[daveo4EV]

Porsche makes a better car and a worse EV
Tesla makes a better EV and a worse car

it's all what you optimize for…the two companies focus on different things

I've owned both - so far I'm keeping the Taycan - no lust for any Model S of any variety vs. Taycan - but there are some drawbacks.

 

[JRNJTAYCAN]

Hi everyone, brand new to this forum so still trying to find my way around, so apologies if this has been asked before. In a dilemma and asking for opinions please. Have owned a Tesla Model S since March 2018 and was fortunate enough to have got free supercharging from new. Placed order for new Tesla S back in June 2021 but despite several visits to Tesla dealer still no wiser as to when i may or may not see new car. Current Tesla has now covered 90,000 miles so im looking to replace and been looking at Taycan. I have Tesla charger fitted at home and also have 3 phase electricity so Tesla will charge at 51mph, so most nights even from empty will charge to full if i need it within 5 hours. With cost of electricity these days this is quite important as between midnight and 5am i am on a very cheap Kwh rate. It is too long a wait for a new Taycan so i am looking at a nearly new purchase. There are 3 questions / concerns i have really.
1. Will i miss the Tesla SuperCharger Network, 90,000 miles in 4 years without any problems at all, has anyone else who drives reasonable distances gone from Tesla to Taycan and regretted it because of charging issues?
2. Would i need to have the 22kw on board AC charger to benefit from my 3 phase Tesla charger at home or would charging speed be quick enough without this?
3. The car i am looking at does not have the Electric charging covers fitted, is this just a gimmick or is it a great feature?

Many thanks

Hi, question. After four years and 90K miles how if any did it affect your range from year one?

Thanks

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