? PCM 6 Update Announcement [Update: Retrofit Being Explored For Existing Taycans]

[Roppe]

yeah, think about people who got "2022" models in 2021 (like late december etc). They are just weeks old still.

Picked mine up 3 weeks ago. Was hoping for it to be considered the latest version for a tad longer. ?

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[raharris]

yeah, think about people who got "2022" models in 2021 (like late december etc). They are just weeks old still.

I’m one of those and honestly don’t care; just fix the PCM and alarm bugs and I don’t care if I see another feature or not.

 

[mlambert890]

I still guess this is true: PAD means sth. like generic / reference/ shared part number.

Any pro dealing with parts should be aware there are generic part numbers that finally translate to more specific ones and not all part numbers are easily accessible to the public without PETx and special knowledge or PPN.
In the VAG world are many old examples e.g. part 1K0907951 is a generic shared ID for many CAN Gateway ECUs.

Searching for PAD.XYZ.... parts you will also find the tire air compressor, emergency ECU, interior air ionization decive etc. Nothing which is an indicator for new hardware, only for shared parts and a new nomenclature.

This is a pretty big deal (I also learned something new, so thanks!)! This means that it's quite possible that even the upcoming 2022s might still be the same major revision of the PCM hardware (9J1). If that's the case it could be as simple as Porsche sucking at their "OTA" updates, and currently working on what they'll need to do to have yet another "dealer campaign" to bring the 2020/2021/early 2022s up to current rev. I now have hope again

 

[sfr]

I’m one of those and honestly don’t care; just fix the PCM and alarm bugs and I don’t care if I see another feature or not.

For the alarm, there is a fix. You should ask your dealer.

 

[Perry]

For the alarm, there is a fix. You should ask your dealer.

Off topic, but my 22CT doesn’t seem to have that problem at least, so they must have done something about it.

 

[scav]

While I don’t really care about icons, it makes me rather upset that I bet it’s the same with the other improvements they promises over time as OTA to increase efficiency and so on. So they fail to deliver on these as well? For me at least, knowing my car would improve as a drivers car over the course of ownership was the final selling point that made me order one.

 

[kreshi]

Not in a million years would this update be hardware restricted. Colored icons and Spotify? It would be the greatest bullcrap ever pulled. Especially if it would mean people with a month old Taycan would be left out. I say it again, let’s calm our horses and wait. We all know how slow Porsche is with their updates and recalls.

 

[rs38]

This means that it's quite possible that even the upcoming 2022s might still be the same major revision of the PCM hardware (9J1).

yes, I think so. Adding a USB3 port or anything minor could make the partnumber change.

If that's the case it could be as simple as Porsche sucking at their "OTA" updates, and currently working on what they'll need to do to have yet another "dealer campaign" to bring the 2020/2021/early 2022s up to current rev. I now have hope again

that's the point. It's very costy for them to test, integrate and update it to "old" Taycans, because it requires obviously lots of dealer's time.
I still wonder why PCM isn't ( as Taycan's only device) possible to update via USB port, as most of you probably have seen it in the 2-finger engineering menu, and also described in the WMA6 update TI PDFs from the NTHSA.

 

[xqdong]

According to Porsche's way of sale, I would not be surprised that they put "colored icons" and "Spotify" as a option on the list, which charge customer $1000

 

[Liberator]

According to Porsche's way of sale, I would not be surprised that they put "colored icons" and "Spotify" as a option on the list, which charge customer $1000

500 $ per colored icon, but you can do PTS on them, then it's 1250 lol

 

[xqdong]

500 $ per colored icon, but you can do PTS on them, then it's 1250 lol

 

[Skilly]

This is a really low level issue for most engineering projects that should have been detected easily and rectified before production, yet Porsche looked like children dabbling in a grown ups office with that.

The car doesn't work as designed or as promised. We don't know the code or their promotion release programming - we only know it failed all of us. It would be interesting to see how well the RCAs are documented!

That said, this the thread has continued to conflate the two issues together:

1. EVERY Taycan on the road today has bugs resident within the current PCM system. They are numerous and well documented. And they limit the car's ability to perform as designed.
2. Porsche brought out a new HW/SW version of the PCM that is currently scheduled for release.

The second *may* fix the first; logic would tell us it would. That said it may not and at the moment isn't being rolled out as such by the limited release for new production models only.

The frustration with the release is multiple, but it suggests that they are overlooking the fleetwide issues by not releasing it to all. That is our assumption though and that would only be true if the hardware is the limiting factor (for the remedy NOT the update). Ultimately, they only need to get the fleet bug free - how they do it, could be separate from the release.

If they use it as distraction and only address issues from 2022 onward, then Porsche will undoubtedly face a class action.

 

[ciaranob]

The car doesn't work as designed or as promised. We don't know the code or their promotion release programming - we only know it failed all of us. It would be interesting to see how well the RCAs are documented!

That said, this the thread has continued to conflate the two issues together:

1. EVERY Taycan on the road today has bugs resident within the current PCM system. They are numerous and well documented. And they limit the car's ability to perform as designed.
2. Porsche brought out a new HW/SW version of the PCM that is currently scheduled for release.

The second *may* fix the first; logic would tell us it would. That said it may not and at the moment isn't being rolled out as such by the limited release for new production models only.

The frustration with the release is multiple, but it suggests that they are overlooking the fleetwide issues by not releasing it to all. That is our assumption though and that would only be true if the hardware is the limiting factor (for the remedy NOT the update). Ultimately, they only need to get the fleet bug free - how they do it, could be separate from the release.

If they use it as distraction and only address issues from 2022 onward, then Porsche will undoubtedly face a class action.

I hear your frustration but your Pt. 1 perhaps a little extreme

The only bug my car (and many others who have reported similarly on this forum) has to date (2022 model CT) is one screen showing km range instead of miles - that is it! Absolutely everything is working 100% and I have a ridiculously spec'd out car i.e. just about all the electronic/hardware options other than Innodrive. Not talking operationally about predicted Range etc. here, just functionality of the systems in the car.

Forums tend to have bias and invariably towards folks experiencing issues and looking for answers. There are likely many, many more who do not participate here that may (likely) also have trouble free cars. Again, in no way belittling the issues clearly present in many cars reported in the forum but, again, forums invariably have a sampling bias.

 

[Nachyomama]

Off topic, but my 22CT doesn’t seem to have that problem at least, so they must have done something about it.

When was your build completed?

 

[Skilly]

I hear your frustration but your Pt. 1 perhaps a little extreme

The only bug my car (and many others who have reported similarly on this forum) has to date (2022 model CT) is one screen showing km range instead of miles - that is it! Absolutely everything is working 100% and I have a ridiculously spec'd out car i.e. just about all the electronic/hardware options other than Innodrive. Not talking operationally about predicted Range etc. here, just functionality of the systems in the car.

Forums tend to have bias and invariably towards folks experiencing issues and looking for answers. There are likely many, many more who do not participate here that may (likely) also have trouble free cars. Again, in no way belittling the issues clearly present in many cars reported in the forum but, again, forums invariably have a sampling bias.

I think it's safe to say that an owner of a 2020/2021 wouldn't agree with your first comment. In fact, a little patronizing, but written word can be tough to convey without implied emotion.

Here is what I will say though. With a 2022, I think you might have an insulated view of the issues. Most of the problematic issues are resident in the 2020/2021 cars. That said, as you pointed out, your car has a bug. I'm pleased to hear that it isn't a bother for you; however, there are 31 pages of concern in this thread alone (there are MANY others) where others might disagree.

Funny that you would kind of equate a forum for a gripe zone. It is but its a fraction and only amplified by the body of people expressing views towards it. There are threads about wheels, colors, options to choose, range, love for the car itself and "show us your car" links. Those that don't draw interest might bring just a few responses. Generally, the longer the thread, the more shared the experience or prevalent the issue is.

I have a bias towards getting what was promised during a transaction. As I am certain most do here.

Again, if this were ANY other product like a phone, or electronic device this would be a returned item. If this were brakes or steering wheels working 'most of the time' and only occasionally let the driver down it would be life and death. There are a few on here that have experienced bricking of the car mid drive with the PCM as the origin.

Im not new to Porsche, or high end cars. I have NEVER seen anything like this before in the 30+ cars that I have owned.

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