CT4 fast enough?

[Izzone]

I have a Turbo S....and you are correct the power is pointless, as you drive torque not HP

When I ordered my wifes, I got her a CT4

Im old enough to remember in high school when a mustang GT finally got over 200 HP and we were all elated.....and here we are discussing if 375 HP is enough

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[Klepper]

Im old enough to remember in high school when a mustang GT finally got over 200 HP and we were all elated.....and here we are discussing if 375 HP is enough

That high school era Mustang probably only weighed 1/2 of what a Taycan does, lol.

 

[Izzone]

1986 Mustang GT
5.0L
200 HP
0-60 in 6.4 sec

And my favorite car of all time
1998 Toyota Supra Twin Turbo
321 HP
0-60 in 4.7 sec

Ill fast forward to my first new Porsche (long gone)
2007 c4S
0-60 in 4.4 sec

I think the heavy CT4 can hold its own

 

[Ruminguyen]

CT4 is good enough

 

[f1eng]

I have a Turbo S....and you are correct the power is pointless, as you drive torque not HP

What makes you think this?
Power is the important parameter, mind you I have heard this misinformation much quoted.

One of my old colleagues who was technical director of Ferrari when interviewing engineers for a job used to ask them first, "what is important torque of power?" and terminated the interview immediately of anybody who said torque.

Torque is necessary to generate power, of course, but as a measure on its own completely meaningless.

 

[McgR]

What makes you think this?
Power is the important parameter, mind you I have heard this misinformation much quoted.

One of my old colleagues who was technical director of Ferrari when interviewing engineers for a job used to ask them first, "what is important torque of power?" and terminated the interview immediately of anybody who said torque.

Torque is necessary to generate power, of course, but as a measure on its own completely meaningless.

I am not an engineer. What should it be more power doesn’t make a difference as long as you have enough torque?

 

[RallyG]

What makes you think this?
Power is the important parameter, mind you I have heard this misinformation much quoted.

One of my old colleagues who was technical director of Ferrari when interviewing engineers for a job used to ask them first, "what is important torque of power?" and terminated the interview immediately of anybody who said torque.

Torque is necessary to generate power, of course, but as a measure on its own completely meaningless.

I am not an engineer but isn't it more nuanced than either torque or power? One without the other is meaningless. There is a relationship between the two and both are necessarily intertwined when it comes to evaluating acceleration, speed. performance and overall drive feel.

 

[f1eng]

I am not an engineer. What should it be more power doesn’t make a difference as long as you have enough torque?

I am not an engineer but isn't it more nuanced than either torque or power? One without the other is meaningless. There is a relationship between the two and both are necessarily intertwined when it comes to evaluating acceleration, speed. performance and overall drive feel.

No.
Power is effectively torque times engine speed, so an engine that produces twice the torque but at half the rpm of another engine they both produce the same power and when geared appropriately exactly the same thrust at the tyre.

The shape of the power curve effects drivability and gearing but power is always the parameter determining performance.

There is little point in quoting torque as a single number actually, though it has become fashionable.
The complete torque against rpm graph tells the whole story but that simply defines the power curve, which is all that matters.

 

[Klepper]

1986 Mustang GT
5.0L
200 HP
0-60 in 6.4 sec

And my favorite car of all time
1998 Toyota Supra Twin Turbo
321 HP
0-60 in 4.7 sec

Ill fast forward to my first new Porsche (long gone)
2007 c4S
0-60 in 4.4 sec

I think the heavy CT4 can hold its own

I loved those 5.0L Mustangs - especially the LX! What a sleeper!

 

[Needsdecaf]

I loved those 5.0L Mustangs - especially the LX! What a sleeper!

Notchback 5.0 FTW.

 

[WuffvonTrips]

There is little point in quoting torque as a single number actually, though it has become fashionable.
The complete torque against rpm graph tells the whole story but that simply defines the power curve, which is all that matters.

I hesitate to offer my own amateurish thoughts in such esteemed company, but fingers crossed here goes ? ...
At least in the past it was common for peak torque to be quoted with a corresponding engine speed, which gave a clue to driving characteristics, but I'm not aware of any such data for the Taycan. I've seen a YouTube video that showed the plots of torque and power for a 4S on a 2 axle dyno rolling road, which showed a very (by ICE standards) flat power curve, presumably achieved by the torque delivery being deliberately managed in a way that wouldn't be possible with an ICE. So I assume that the CT4 and indeed all the other Taycans are able to deliver near-peak power over a much wider rev and speed range than with an ICE (even allowing for the reduced number of gears on the Taycan), so have much better performance than might be expected if purely considering max power : weight ratios.

 

[BROUbrou09]

As others have said, I think the decision depends on the vehicles that you've driven in the past and what your expectations are for an EV (if you are a first time owner). Coming from a Model S and a Panamera 4S, I didn't want to "downgrade" so I went with the CT4S. No regrets. Good luck!

 

[McgR]

As others have said, I think the decision depends on the vehicles that you've driven in the past and what your expectations are for an EV (if you are a first time owner). Coming from a Model S and a Panamera 4S, I didn't want to "downgrade" so I went with the CT4S. No regrets. Good luck!

Good point. It would be a downgrade for you. And I presume the pana 4s wil be in the same price range than the Taycan 4S? So probably that is the budget you want to spent on your new car. So good choice.

I have always gained some HP with my cars. BMW 525d - 530d - X5 40e - 640d GT - X5 45e. And now a CT 4. So that still gives me some space to upgrade in a couple of years.

I was able to sell my X5 45e for 10k more than the dealer offered me. I sold it for 80% of the price of that I bought it new 2 years ago. Couldn’t let that deal go. But I had to sell it right away. So I did.

Currently I am driving our spare Mazda 3 with 120 hp (0-100 Kmh just below 10 seconds). Probably for 3 months. The difference with the 4CT will be huge! And I am already getting used to the lower seating position compared to the X5.

 

[285kph]

As others have said, I think the decision depends on the vehicles that you've driven in the past and what your expectations are for an EV (if you are a first time owner). Coming from a Model S and a Panamera 4S, I didn't want to "downgrade" so I went with the CT4S. No regrets. Good luck!

Fun fact: Taycan RWD (!) is faster 60-100mph and 60-130mph than a Panamera 4s.

 

[WattTurbo]

Fun fact: Taycan RWD (!) is faster 60-100mph and 60-130mph than a Panamera 4s.

So, you're saying it's a full second slower 0-60mph, then catches up and passes the Panamera 4S? Electric vehicles are faster down load not up top is my understanding. So, if it's already slower down low, it's unlikely it'd passes the Pano up top, but that's just my theory.

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