GTS range

[Alpha]

It won't.

I have a GTS 3.6k miles 5 months old now - 203 miles reported range at 85%

I had a 4S PB+ from new for 2.6 years and it was the same.

Recup kicks in around 650 miles.

Reported range is largely irrelevant when at a standstill. Consumption is the key measure.

My 4S achieved 3.3 miles / kWh over 22000 miles. My GTS only 2.8 so far.

Weird how my consumption was never below 55 kWh/100km when the car was new, and down to about 25 kWh now. 18,6 is the best trip I've done. You can also see it in the Powermeter-display. A new car doesn't recuperate ANY electricity. That's devastating to the consumption.

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[W1NGE]

Weird how my consumption was never below 55 kWh/100km when the car was new, and down to about 25 kWh now. 18,6 is the best trip I've done. You can also see it in the Powermeter-display. A new car doesn't recuperate ANY electricity. That's devastating to the consumption.

Only for few short kilometres or miles. With or without recup the quoted range will not be the true number.

Look at the bigger picture over time and never reset your total trip for as long as you own the car.

Norway may be warmer (at times) than UK but in general similar to UK.

21" Spyders are a killer too.

 

[Alpha]

Only for few short kilometres or miles. With or without recup the quoted range will not be the true number.

Look at the bigger picture over time and never reset your total trip for as long as you own the car.

Norway may be warmer (at times) than UK but in general similar to UK.

21" Spyders are a killer too.

Well, the range will always be a guess-sumption, but that's not the point. The point is that a brand new Taycan doesn't recuperate energy. Making the range terrible until the run in period is over.

 

[Sidicks]

My recuperation started after c. 300 miles

 

[W1NGE]

Well, the range will always be a guess-sumption, but that's not the point. The point is that a brand new Taycan doesn't recuperate energy. Making the range terrible until the run in period is over.

I think we all know that - it's in the manual - impact on consumption/ range overall is negligible.

Coasting is best recup is flawed.

 

[Ross]

How many times………?
Recuperation from the brake pedal is not some magic bullet.

You can recuperate with the steering wheel button from day 1.

Recuperation from the brake pedal is only relevant if you are accelerating hard then braking hard.

Recuperation from braking deceleration is a TINY fraction of the energy used in acceleration to get to the speed in the first place

Driving hard with braking recuperation wotking will give you a couple of extra miles range.
At best.

When driving for range braking recuperation is entirely irrelevant.
You shouldn’t be touching your brakes to get near (or over) the magic 300.

Range improves with time because you learn how to drive the car to get the best range if indeed range is what you want.

I can get 300 miles if I drive for range.

I can get 150 range if I am alone and I drive aggressively with no nervous passengers.

It has NOTHING to do with whether braking recuperation is working or not.

 

[Alpha]

How many times………?
Recuperation from the brake pedal is not some magic bullet.

You can recuperate with the steering wheel button from day 1.

Recuperation from the brake pedal is only relevant if you are accelerating hard then braking hard.

Recuperation from braking deceleration is a TINY fraction of the energy used in acceleration to get to the speed in the first place

Driving hard with braking recuperation wotking will give you a couple of extra miles range.
At best.

When driving for range braking recuperation is entirely irrelevant.
You shouldn’t be touching your brakes to get near (or over) the magic 300.

Range improves with time because you learn how to drive the car to get the best range if indeed range is what you want.

I can get 300 miles if I drive for range.

I can get 150 range if I am alone and I drive aggressively with no nervous passengers.

It has NOTHING to do with whether braking recuperation is working or not.

If you drive 100% of the time on highways the difference is little, but recuperating energy when braking helps everywhere.

But people also drive in town and neighborhoods a lot of the time and getting absolutely zero energy back to the battery is terrible for range.

And using the button to activate automatic recuperation gives you a "not available" error 80% of the time.

 

[W1NGE]

If you drive 100% of the time on highways the difference is little, but recuperating energy when braking helps everywhere.

But people also drive in town and neighborhoods a lot of the time and getting absolutely zero energy back to the battery is terrible for range.

And using the button to activate automatic recuperation gives you a "not available" error 80% of the time.

Auto, in my experience, has never not been available but requires various conditions to be active such as a car in front. Direct sunlight on the camera or road spray would be problematic too.

Manual is best IMHO if you need a placebo for enhancing range in normal driving.

 

[Whation]

that's about the average I get after some 9 months of ownership - still love every drive in it despite the low range

 

[f1eng]

I use the coast function, so am only recuperating when using the brake pedal.
In racing coast was the optimum way to save fuel with the least loss of lap time, whether IC or hybrid (EVs are unsuitable for racing IMHO).
At 4200 miles my average consumption is 3.0 m/kWh now mainly on not very aerodynamic 21” Chross Turismo wheels.

IME on the Taycan and PHEVs has been recuperation is really good in town but adds little on the open road, as physics would lead one to expect.
The efficiency of EVs an PHEVs in traffic is spectacularly better than IC engined vehicles, a bit due to recuperation but mainly because the motor is using ~zero energy when stopped.

 

[MrB]

I’ve a very similar spec to @f1eng and after 31000 miles my consumption is also 3.0 m/kWh so seems consistent. My driving mostly innodrive engaged motorway speeds between Norwich and West London with around 10% of pure joy driving when I’m not on the way to work and back. ?

If innodrive isn’t engaged I always use coasting where possible/practical. Never bother with a regen setting as I worked on the basis that coasting is optimal and if I am forced to brake then it will regen anyway.

 

[Ose5000]

It won't.

I have a GTS 3.6k miles 5 months old now - 203 miles reported range at 85%

I had a 4S PB+ from new for 2.6 years and it was the same.

Recup kicks in around 650 miles.

Reported range is largely irrelevant when at a standstill. Consumption is the key measure.

My 4S achieved 3.3 miles / kWh over 22000 miles. My GTS only 2.8 so far.

My previous 4S got to 290 miles at 100%. Had 48k on the clock

 

[Archimedes]

Well, the range will always be a guess-sumption, but that's not the point. The point is that a brand new Taycan doesn't recuperate energy. Making the range terrible until the run in period is over.

No, recup doesn’t have that much impact on range. Certainly not the difference between great and terrible.

OP, just give it time for the guesstimator to build up some knowledge of your driving style. Drive fast, lower range. Drive slow, higher range.

 

[Alpha]

No, recup doesn’t have that much impact on range. Certainly not the difference between great and terrible.

OP, just give it time for the guesstimator to build up some knowledge of your driving style. Drive fast, lower range. Drive slow, higher range.

As I said, my consumption was never below 55 kWh/100km when the car was new, and it's down to about 25 kWh now. 18,6 is the best trip I've done. Recuperating energy has a massive impact, at least driving around my hilly town. And as I said, if you only do highway miles it will matter less.

 

[DGW]

congrats!
also collected my GTS a week ago, I charged it to 90% (profile/timer didn't work exactly to stop at 80%, need to check it) at 345km of range, and I agree with most folks' feedback here that it will improve over time because the avg consumption I have currently is only 21.7 kWh/100km (much lower than my previous 4S+) and I have only been driving it in Sport Plus + mode

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