Is the Taycan really exceeding EPA rating?

[Chris8536]

That’s got to be a record. You must be driving downhill both ways!

55MPH 4s with aero 19in wheels and hankook low resistance has achieved this distance in this video:




The reality is that EVs have a extremely wide range spread based on behavior and environment. You can get about 190-200mi going 90mph the whole way in cold weather, or you can get 350mi going 55 in warm weather. Or some random mix in-between.

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[kort]

I have never seen any number close to that in my '21 4s with 20 inch all seasons

 

[Kingske]

That’s got to be a record. You must be driving downhill both ways!

You discovered my secret. I can no longer apply for a patent now...

 

[ciaranob]

I have never seen any number close to that in my '21 4s with 20 inch all seasons

Yeah I think we need to be fully transparent when posting 'predicted' miles - I don't AT ALL mean that in a negative way, simply that it is always about the driving style, tire selection and wheel size, average and min-max trip speeds, weather/climate, terrain, mix of long and short trips etc etc.

Posting a predicted (vs consumptive) range is fine (and Kingske, that prediction is insane and I'd be mad happy to get anywhere near it!! ), but the devil is always in the details. We all have the same cars but need to specify also sedan vs CT and std. vs PB+.

Realize 3rd parties try to get a handle on much of this but would be great to have a dedicated Taycan owner group to track this with as much driving diversity as you can and post real world consumptive ranges achieved vs predicted.

Have to say I did expect better results by now even with 21" wheels and sumer Perf. tires (actual closer to EPA estimates), but its def not "harshin' my buzz" for the car

 

[Kingske]

Yeah I think we need to be fully transparent when posting 'predicted' miles - I don't AT ALL mean that in a negative way, simply that it is always about the driving style, tire selection and wheel size, average and min-max trip speeds, weather/climate, terrain, mix of long and short trips etc etc.

Posting a predicted (vs consumptive) range is fine (and Kingske, that prediction is insane and I'd be mad happy to get anywhere near it!! ), but the devil is always in the details. We all have the same cars but need to specify also sedan vs CT and std. vs PB+.

Realize 3rd parties try to get a handle on much of this but would be great to have a dedicated Taycan owner group to track this with as much driving diversity as you can and post real world consumptive ranges achieved vs predicted.

Have to say I did expect better results by now even with 21" wheels and sumer Perf. tires (actual closer to EPA estimates), but its def not "harshin' my buzz" for the car

True. When I took that picture with 350 predicted miles at a 99% SoC, the car (2020 4S PB+) was in Range mode and the A/C in ECO mode. I have the 19" Aero wheels with all-season tires (sometimes lovingly called no-season tires by other forum members) and manual charge covers. The picture was taken early November in New Jersey which means that the ambient temperature was lower than the one for optimum range but still mild enough not to have a major range penalty. There is indeed a difference between effective (realized) range and predictive range on the guess-o-meter, but that difference is smaller than one would expect. My effective/realized range in the late spring/summer/early fall is typically between 310 and 330 miles. In the winter this drops to between 270 and 290 miles.

 

[ciaranob]

True. When I took that picture with 350 predicted miles at a 99% SoC, the car (2020 4S PB+) was in Range mode and the A/C in ECO mode. I have the 19" Aero wheels with all-season tires (sometimes lovingly called no-season tires by other forum members) and manual charge covers. The picture was taken early November in New Jersey which means that the ambient temperature was lower than the one for optimum range but still mild enough not to have a major range penalty. There is indeed a difference between effective (realized) range and predictive range on the guess-o-meter, but that difference is smaller than one would expect. My effective/realized range in the late spring/summer/early fall is typically between 310 and 330 miles. In the winter this drops to between 270 and 290 miles.

Excellent thx again for sharing - you do seem to be in the upper end of realized range and of course quite diff to my spec of a CT with 21” wheels, summer performance tires etc.
Can I ask again as to what sort of you improvement you saw from earliest charge to current chrarge and associated range prediction?

 

[Kingske]

Excellent thx again for sharing - you do seem to be in the upper end of realized range and of course quite diff to my spec of a CT with 21” wheels, summer performance tires etc.
Can I ask again as to what sort of you improvement you saw from earliest charge to current chrarge and associated range prediction?

Quite a lot, actually. My predicted range (at 100% SoC) started out around 230 miles or so and grew rapidly over the first couple of hundred miles - driven by my actual consumption - to the 270-ish miles zone where it stayed for a while until the moment the brakes were bedded in and regen got activated. Then the predicted range grew beyond 300 miles (in decent ambient temperatures) where it stayed. I guess in a couple of years the range will start shrinking again as a result of battery degradation, unless Porsche releases software updates which improve either efficiency or battery utilization. One can only hope...

 

[Roppe]

Whoa - Are you constantly going downhill? ?

 

[Kingske]

Whoa - Are you constantly going downhill? ?

Feels like it…

 

[Roppe]

Feels like it…

I just realized there was another page with comments on this. Anywho - congrats on what seems to be a very nice specimen!

 

[feye]

How did you produce this table? Was it via an app or manually?

Since I only charge twice a month, I manually record my charging sessions. I want to get a better understanding of the battery.

 

[feye]

True. When I took that picture with 350 predicted miles at a 99% SoC, the car (2020 4S PB+) was in Range mode and the A/C in ECO mode. I have the 19" Aero wheels with all-season tires (sometimes lovingly called no-season tires by other forum members) and manual charge covers. The picture was taken early November in New Jersey which means that the ambient temperature was lower than the one for optimum range but still mild enough not to have a major range penalty. There is indeed a difference between effective (realized) range and predictive range on the guess-o-meter, but that difference is smaller than one would expect. My effective/realized range in the late spring/summer/early fall is typically between 310 and 330 miles. In the winter this drops to between 270 and 290 miles.

The power of coasting on 19". I have 20" and last year with new battery might have reached this number. In Normal mode, I got a couple of times 335 miles predicted range.

 

[ciaranob]

Quite a lot, actually. My predicted range (at 100% SoC) started out around 230 miles or so and grew rapidly over the first couple of hundred miles - driven by my actual consumption - to the 270-ish miles zone where it stayed for a while until the moment the brakes were bedded in and regen got activated. Then the predicted range grew beyond 300 miles (in decent ambient temperatures) where it stayed. I guess in a couple of years the range will start shrinking again as a result of battery degradation, unless Porsche releases software updates which improve either efficiency or battery utilization. One can only hope...

Over 800 miles now and effectively no change for me unfortunately - still seeing 240 or so max predicted range at 100% SoC which rarely if ever translates to actual consumptive miles. I use coasting over regen and overall fairly conservative driving other than tending to be at 70-80 on highways vs 65-70. AC/heat on maybe 70-30 in respect normal vs eco. Do have 21” wheels and perf summer tires. Odd!

 

[Kingske]

Over 800 miles now and effectively no change for me unfortunately - still seeing 240 or so max predicted range at 100% SoC which rarely if ever translates to actual consumptive miles. I use coasting over regen and overall fairly conservative driving other than tending to be at 70-80 on highways vs 65-70. AC/heat on maybe 70-30 in respect normal vs eco. Do have 21” wheels and perf summer tires. Odd!

Strange, and your local climate cannot be blamed for killing range either…

 

[ciaranob]

Strange, and your local climate cannot be blamed for killing range either…

Indeed - rather frustrating, but again I may be jumping the gun and possibly still need to do more long trips to 'train' the system more.

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