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Bit long winded - apologies up front!
Decided to do a quick tour/roundtrip out of Houston via Hempstead, Bellville and Sealy (closest thing to 'hilly' terrain we have nearby Houston) to test what I would refer to as a real world consumptive test without resorting to the constrictions imposed by Range Mode (I'm not adverse to using Range Mode but wanted to see what I can get w/o having to use it).
For me this would be
1) Car: Cross Turismo 4S with PB+ as std., 21" wheels Summer Perf Tires (Pirelli P-Zero ELECT) - ca 900 miles on odometer.
2) Driving in Normal Mode (my car set to lowest ride height in this mode all else as std).
3) 2 adults, My wife and I in the car (no luggage) and the A/C on ECO for entire trip.
4) Roads a good mix of interstate, highway and backroads so max. cruising speeds up to 85, typically 70-80 on highways and 55-65 on open backroads.
5) 100% SoC to start which provided a pre-trip (in garage) prediction of 243 miles range in Normal Mode but almost instantly reset to 234 Range (see poss. explanations below).
6) Weather perfect ranging from 55-60 F with no wind and 70% of trip on terrain that included flat roads with 30% in rolling hills (100's ft elevation changes only).
I'll do a test in Range Mode another time but my goal here was again to be able to get a feel for what real world range to expect with 'normal parameters' active in the car. Being forced to compromise comfort/performance on road trips for me detracts from driving this car - they are fine when you have to stretch it but not for general all purpose touring for me.
Trip Details:
Minor roadwork re-directions locally made total trip 183 vs the Google distance of 181 miles.
So after 153 miles of driving we arrived at the the only planned (and Porsche Charging Planner suggested) charging station in Katy Mills with a prediction of 73 miles of range remaining. 153+73 = ca 226 range very close to a pre-trip prediction of 234 but still higher than actual consumptive range of 223 miles for 100% SoC (183/.82 i.e. for total trip I used 82% batt. for 183 mies).
EDIT - we did mess about with seat heating and comfort settings on departure which may account for the odd sudden 'loss' of 9 miles of range, 243 to 234). Also some rather 'spirited' driving in last 30 miles may account for the difference in prediction of 234 to 223 - this is a real world test after all !).
See an additional possibility in #3 by Kingske below - possibly the correct answer!
When I plugged into the EVSE it indicated I had a remaining SoC of ca. 31% - again getting close agreement with a 234 mile initial range. This wa a 150kW charger and in less than 20 minutes we were at 81% charge - works for me!
Summarizing:
Started Trip with 100% SoC and using Normal Mode with Lowest ride height and with AC on the whole trip.
Pre-Trip Range 234 miles predected range (again dropped from 243 within first mile!)
Realized consumptive range was 223 miles (reasonably close to pre-trip guesstimate and disparity possibly explainable as mentioned above).
My Trip Data is listing an average of 2.5 mi/kWh for this trip.
I made an earlier thread in which I essentially predicted this type of real world performance for my car and TBH was and still am hoping for more range improvement (with an addl. 500 miles more under its 'belt' since that prediction) - but again possibly still too early in respect the 'conditioning' of my PB+.
Bottom-line though very happy with the performance given the settings I had on in the car and my 21" wheels w/perf tires . MOST IMPORTANTLY I could have easily not charged on this trip and would have arrived home with 18% SoC - if I had not had fun in the last 30 miles this would also easily have been 20% on arrival. Very GTK!
Decided to do a quick tour/roundtrip out of Houston via Hempstead, Bellville and Sealy (closest thing to 'hilly' terrain we have nearby Houston) to test what I would refer to as a real world consumptive test without resorting to the constrictions imposed by Range Mode (I'm not adverse to using Range Mode but wanted to see what I can get w/o having to use it).
For me this would be
1) Car: Cross Turismo 4S with PB+ as std., 21" wheels Summer Perf Tires (Pirelli P-Zero ELECT) - ca 900 miles on odometer.
2) Driving in Normal Mode (my car set to lowest ride height in this mode all else as std).
3) 2 adults, My wife and I in the car (no luggage) and the A/C on ECO for entire trip.
4) Roads a good mix of interstate, highway and backroads so max. cruising speeds up to 85, typically 70-80 on highways and 55-65 on open backroads.
5) 100% SoC to start which provided a pre-trip (in garage) prediction of 243 miles range in Normal Mode but almost instantly reset to 234 Range (see poss. explanations below).
6) Weather perfect ranging from 55-60 F with no wind and 70% of trip on terrain that included flat roads with 30% in rolling hills (100's ft elevation changes only).
I'll do a test in Range Mode another time but my goal here was again to be able to get a feel for what real world range to expect with 'normal parameters' active in the car. Being forced to compromise comfort/performance on road trips for me detracts from driving this car - they are fine when you have to stretch it but not for general all purpose touring for me.
Trip Details:
Minor roadwork re-directions locally made total trip 183 vs the Google distance of 181 miles.
So after 153 miles of driving we arrived at the the only planned (and Porsche Charging Planner suggested) charging station in Katy Mills with a prediction of 73 miles of range remaining. 153+73 = ca 226 range very close to a pre-trip prediction of 234 but still higher than actual consumptive range of 223 miles for 100% SoC (183/.82 i.e. for total trip I used 82% batt. for 183 mies).
EDIT - we did mess about with seat heating and comfort settings on departure which may account for the odd sudden 'loss' of 9 miles of range, 243 to 234). Also some rather 'spirited' driving in last 30 miles may account for the difference in prediction of 234 to 223 - this is a real world test after all !).
See an additional possibility in #3 by Kingske below - possibly the correct answer!
When I plugged into the EVSE it indicated I had a remaining SoC of ca. 31% - again getting close agreement with a 234 mile initial range. This wa a 150kW charger and in less than 20 minutes we were at 81% charge - works for me!
Summarizing:
Started Trip with 100% SoC and using Normal Mode with Lowest ride height and with AC on the whole trip.
Pre-Trip Range 234 miles predected range (again dropped from 243 within first mile!)
Realized consumptive range was 223 miles (reasonably close to pre-trip guesstimate and disparity possibly explainable as mentioned above).
My Trip Data is listing an average of 2.5 mi/kWh for this trip.
I made an earlier thread in which I essentially predicted this type of real world performance for my car and TBH was and still am hoping for more range improvement (with an addl. 500 miles more under its 'belt' since that prediction) - but again possibly still too early in respect the 'conditioning' of my PB+.
Bottom-line though very happy with the performance given the settings I had on in the car and my 21" wheels w/perf tires . MOST IMPORTANTLY I could have easily not charged on this trip and would have arrived home with 18% SoC - if I had not had fun in the last 30 miles this would also easily have been 20% on arrival. Very GTK!
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