New software update coming? Anyone?

[rim23]

Preheat for optimal fast DC charging requires battery hotter than normal operation. That is what people mean when they say they want a pre-heat button. Today Taycans will only pre-heat the battery to that level if you use Taycan navigations to a known high speed DC charger. If you use Apple Maps, Google Maps, Waze, etc, when you get to the next DC charger, your battery will not be preheated, meaning you will have to charge longer.

Cmon. Don’t read between the lines. Of course preconditioning BEFORE DC charging is vitally important. Preconditioning DURING DC charging is a non-sense

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[whitex]

Cmon. Don’t read between the lines. Of course preconditioning BEFORE DC charging is vitally important. Preconditioning DURING DC charging is a non-sense

During charging would not be considered "pre", would it? Conditioning during DC charging is also important. I've seen people use Sport Plus mode at DC chargers to keep the battery cooler (more aggressive cooling) and therefore sustain faster charging.

 

[rim23]

During charging would not be considered "pre", would it? Conditioning during DC charging is also important. I've seen people use Sport Plus mode at DC chargers to keep the battery cooler (more aggressive cooling) and therefore sustain faster charging.

Ok. It is. I also used sport plus to keep the temperature from increasing too much.

 

[whitex]

Ok. It is. I also used sport plus to keep the temperature from increasing too much.

I've started using SportPlus to precondition the battery when using Waze for navigation instead of Taycan nav. It gets the battery to similar temperatures (especially the way I drive sometimes).

 

[rim23]

I've started using SportPlus to precondition the battery when using Waze for navigation instead of Taycan nav. It gets the battery to similar temperatures (especially the way I drive sometimes).

Tbh, I didn’t find it as effective as destination charging. Though, I don’t do DC charging much. 95% is home AC charging

 

[whitex]

Tbh, I didn’t find it as effective as destination charging. Though, I don’t do DC charging much. 95% is home AC charging

Same here. Majority of my charging is AC charging, where I don't care if it's preconditioned since it's always plugging the car in for a while. I have the upgraded AC charger, and to date have never seen the car not be able to take advantage of the full charge rate on AC, regardless of battery state. From previous EV's, I do know it is theoretically possible (I once had a Tesla battery frozen so badly it only accepted 3KW charge rate at first), but I am not worried about it, eventually it warms up, and again, AC charging is typically a few hours. I had a couple of situations when I needed to AC charge quick, but that is coming straight from the driving, so no problem taking in 19.2KW (max in NA).

My wife has been driving EV's since 2016. To date, she charged outside of the house maybe 6 times total, and we had free DC charging on all her cars. Home charging has always been sufficient for her driving, even during times when she used more close to 100% of the battery per day - she usually came home in the middle of the day for a few hours - this is where the upgraded AC charging speed at home was helpful (I have 3 19.2KW capable chargers in the garage, they all load-share 19.2KW total, but honestly, rarely do more than one EV is charging at the same time).

 

[Tooney]

I've seen people use Sport Plus mode at DC chargers to keep the battery cooler (more aggressive cooling) and therefore sustain faster charging.

Could you explain more about this? What specifically do you do? What happens and why?

 

[tuptaycan4S]

How about a PCM that: 1.) responds right away. 2.) actually boots up quickly every time I start the car 3.) loads Apple Music and podcasts properly every time it boots up 4.) syncs the iPhone calendar properly and 5.) loads weather before the weather actually changes.

 

[Taycan barry]

A Porsche dealer in Germany told me that there is a software update coming whereby the car has to come in. I have an appointment for a rear light replacement and they hope to have the software update too. I bring the car in on 25th Oct.
However, I haven't seen any postings about a new release yet, nor have I read sth about it on the German Taycan forum.

Is there any information about any upcoming software update?
Cheers

My dealer in Danbury ct told me there is a new software update ready to fix the many pcm problems like having the entire screen going black with a spinning blue circle. I have been waiting for this since last January.

 

[Scandinavian]

How about a PCM that: 1.) responds right away. 2.) actually boots up quickly every time I start the car 3.) loads Apple Music and podcasts properly every time it boots up 4.) syncs the iPhone calendar properly and 5.) loads weather before the weather actually changes.

What car is that system in?

 

[tuptaycan4S]

What car is that system in?

Taycan

 

[ben1]

Preheat for optimal fast DC charging requires battery hotter than normal operation. That is what people mean when they say they want a pre-heat button. Today Taycans will only pre-heat the battery to that level if you use Taycan navigations to a known high speed DC charger. If you use Apple Maps, Google Maps, Waze, etc, when you get to the next DC charger, your battery will not be preheated, meaning you will have to charge longer.

Indeed. That is what we need. A button that says "bring the battery at optimal DC charging temperature asap".
Example1: You know where the dc charger is, so you do not want to enter its destination in the navigation. You know you will arrive there in 15min, and just want a simple way to sayto the car to prepare for it.
Example2: You want to go charging at a Tesla Charger, which is not in the Taycan Navigation.

Sport Plus mode is not exactly the same. It does not heat to high enough temperatures for DC charging. Plus, I don't have sport plus. And its purpose is unrelated to charging.

Personally I find this a very obvious and basic feature. This should have been there from the start.

The same for launch control: The way to operate that is clearly designed by somebody writing specifications for a petrol car. It is just plain silly why that doesn't work automatic.
Just give me extra power until the motor/controller/battery is too hot. How hard can it be ?
Or at a counter (x amount of time above power level y in z minutes).
There are so many ways to implement this in a better way.

 

[Rik_CT4s]

Indeed. That is what we need. A button that says "bring the battery at optimal DC charging temperature asap".
Example1: You know where the dc charger is, so you do not want to enter its destination in the navigation. You know you will arrive there in 15min, and just want a simple way to sayto the car to prepare for it.
Example2: You want to go charging at a Tesla Charger, which is not in the Taycan Navigation.

Sport Plus mode is not exactly the same. It does not heat to high enough temperatures for DC charging. Plus, I don't have sport plus. And its purpose is unrelated to charging.

Personally I find this a very obvious and basic feature. This should have been there from the start.

The same for launch control: The way to operate that is clearly designed by somebody writing specifications for a petrol car. It is just plain silly why that doesn't work automatic.
Just give me extra power until the motor/controller/battery is too hot. How hard can it be ?
Or at a counter (x amount of time above power level y in z minutes).
There are so many ways to implement this in a better way.

Especially the latter. I also want launch control POWER anytime I want it, not just a few seconds on actual launch. I changed my 4s CT to a TS CT and yes I do want to power all the time. Can't be that hard indeed.
Tuners can already do it, let alone Porsche with some simple tweaks.
Really hope that this will be happening in the near future. But will it??

 

[ben1]

Especially the latter. I also want launch control POWER anytime I want it, not just a few seconds on actual launch. I changed my 4s CT to a TS CT and yes I do want to power all the time. Can't be that hard indeed.
Tuners can already do it, let alone Porsche with some simple tweaks.
Really hope that this will be happening in the near future. But will it??

I expect it will not happen.
Porsche is more about marketing than about pure technical excellence.

The silly launch control feature helps them to advertise high power but still keep a lot of different power-price levels. Plus they do not want to make the Taycan too fast compared to the 911. If they would go all the way with the Taycan, it would crush the 911 acceleration times. It is all about managing a product portfolio that makes the most money. Not to make the best product.

The marketeers at Porsche have more power than the engineers.

 

[Murph7355]

Indeed. That is what we need. A button that says "bring the battery at optimal DC charging temperature asap".
Example1: You know where the dc charger is, so you do not want to enter its destination in the navigation. You know you will arrive there in 15min, and just want a simple way to sayto the car to prepare for it.
Example2: You want to go charging at a Tesla Charger, which is not in the Taycan Navigation.

Sport Plus mode is not exactly the same. It does not heat to high enough temperatures for DC charging. Plus, I don't have sport plus. And its purpose is unrelated to charging.

Personally I find this a very obvious and basic feature. This should have been there from the start.
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On the preheating for DC charging, would the car use enough energy getting it up to temp for quicker DC charging to negate the advantage of doing it in the first place?

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