Taycan battery pack swappable?

[Kingske]

Question to our engineering-minded friends on this forum: does the Taycan's technical design allow for a future replacement of the current battery back with a superior battery pack if, say in three or four years, battery technology would leap forward so that significantly more capacity for a lower weight would be on offer? If that would be the case, it could be important in preserving the value of current Taycans or at least in preserving/upgrading the user experience.

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[Genau]

See this thread: https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/depreciated-value.2042/page-2#post-27430

 

[Kingske]

See this thread: https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/depreciated-value.2042/page-2#post-27430

Thanks for the reassuring reminder. Since the Taycan proves to be mechanically a very good car, an upgradable battery pack makes it lot more future-proof, assuming that Porsche meanwhile gets its act together on the software side of course...

 

[HK111]

Yep. AFAIK: Essentially the battery pack is one big flat unit (except for the "Performance Battery Plus"-part, which is more convoluted, geometrically), that is bolted onto the bottom of the car frame with about 30 screws and connected with a few connectors: HV, heat exchange and sensor/control connector.

The content of that pack could be quite different in the future, as long as the mechanical/stiffness properties and the connectors stay the same.

So weirdly, the car may actually improve over time!

Cheers,
Henrik

 

[Tazer]

I have a feeling Porsche will laugh at this and rather sell you a new car.
And if somehow there is an aftermarket solution, it would probably cost more than it’s worth.

 

[Taycanturbolondon]

I have a feeling Porsche will laugh at this and rather sell you a new car.
And if somehow there is an aftermarket solution, it would probably cost more than it’s worth.

Absolutely agree. I’m getting rid of mine in about 24months, hopefully with some facelift Taycan

 

[Tazer]

Absolutely agree. I’m getting rid of mine in about 24months, hopefully with some facelift Taycan

Exactly ?

 

[ciaranob]

Companies like Ample are rapidly moving into this space (catching up with similar tech active in China) - if they can deliver what they promise (timeline?) it could be huge for certain applications in the Taycan but I’d assume Porsche would have to buy into the model to make it work financially for Ample.

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[JimBob]

Porsche? Not in the lifetime of this universe. But maybe Rich Rebuilds could start a chain of battery swap shops.

 

[f1eng]

I have a feeling Porsche will laugh at this and rather sell you a new car.
And if somehow there is an aftermarket solution, it would probably cost more than it’s worth.

You are probably wrong.
Porsche has always been proud of how many of all the Porsches ever made are still being used so I am pretty sure there will always be battery replacements and it would make sense to use more recent cells if they are cheaper when re-packing the battery box.

 

[raharris]

I believe in a few years will see whole new businesses popping with battery replacement services; and potentially with better tech. Pattern parts exist for every other component, why wouldn’t they for batteries at some point.

 

[Tazer]

You are probably wrong.
Porsche has always been proud of how many of all the Porsches ever made are still being used so I am pretty sure there will always be battery replacements and it would make sense to use more recent cells if they are cheaper when re-packing the battery box.

That’s like saying Porsche will allow you to put a 992 engine in your old 911… Makes no sense when their literal reason for existence is to sell cars. This is a corporation not your friend.

 

[f1eng]

That’s like saying Porsche will allow you to put a 992 engine in your old 911… Makes no sense when their literal reason for existence is to sell cars. This is a corporation not your friend.

No it isn't. That would not fit.
It is like still supplying new spares for an existing product. Like pistons for an old engine made on a CNC machine using better alloys.

In the case of a Taycan with modular battery it will be unlikely that a replacement in 6 years will be the same internally as the existing one, not least because the original chips and cells won't be available. But a complete assembly with equivalent or better performance, even maybe cheaper, will be available. Like hybrid batteries have been.

I would be sad if you are right, and it may be the case since VW are perhaps going to float the company and that is often the end of that sort of service.

It is certainly a risk to buy any modern chip based product and expect longevity.

I have already decided to only spend 25% of what I would have on anything containing a chip set which may have a life of only 5 years, so no more expensive computers or hifi for me!

My latest Macbook Pro is the most unreliable computer I have ever owned (in 35 years of home computing) and the one that preceded it had the worst battery life and most difficult and expensive replacement of any before that.
Shame, Apple is rich enough but now too greedy for me.

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