Taycan ranked best EV you can buy in UK

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I have found a charger on my main route requiring charging away from home which has been good. I found it using ZapMap but it doesn’t show on Porsche sat nav so even navigating to its location doesn’t precondition the battery. It is the only >50kW charger on the nicest part of the route.

Here inadequate investment in infrastructure and mainly only available on the motorways which I avoid as much as possible anyway means without home charging an EV is unsuited to my chosen lifestyle.

I am retired and journeys are for pleasure mainly rather than necessity. If I always had to use the route dictated by charger locations it would be so uninteresting I’d probably not bother to go.

Tory Government promises Infrastructure yet their mates in oil and gas sector continue to make huge profits yet fail to invest !

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[f1eng]

Tory Government promises Infrastructure yet their mates in oil and gas sector continue to make huge profits yet fail to invest !

Yes they have failed magnificently on infrastructure investment promises. Like on more or less everything else.

 

[Porsche-Guru]

Couldn't possibly agree.

(With the efficiency - 3.7mi/kWh? )

Can't get 2.7... let alone 3.7 !!!

Heavy foot, drive it like it is supposed to be... maybe

 

[Rossmeldr]

Can't get 2.7... let alone 3.7 !!!

Heavy foot, drive it like it is supposed to be... maybe

You just need to drive it with your other half on board more. . I get great mileage when my wife is in the pax seat!

 

[Hirschaj]

You just need to drive it with your other half on board more. . I get great mileage when my wife is in the pax seat!

THIS!!!

 

[BMonte13]

So in the past couples weeks on this forum there was a link to an article citing the Taycan as the most unreliable EV and now a link citing it as the best EV in the UK. As for me, I love my Taycan and it works. After almost 2 years of ownership my biggest complaint is the cost of insurance, yearly registration, and the dent in my wallet that's about to happen to replace tires. It's a Porsche though. I get it.

 

[MissionE]

I wouldn’t call the Taycan an “Ev”; it’s a Porsche with an electric engine.

 

[ben1]

Interesting article and method to evaluate the different efficiencies!

I am most surprised at the difference in charging losses as measured.

Lowest loss in Tesla model S 0.7% followed by model 3 and Y. 0.9%, Ford Mustang 1.0%

Highest loss in Polestar at 17.7%!!!! Nearly 1/5 of the energy lost in charging!!!

Most manufacturers coming in around 10%!

I am curious how there can be such a difference in charging losses!!?? 0.7% vs 17.7%.

The Taycan also has rather high charging loses. It seems to be always around 200Watt. Even if charging at 16A single phase.
I wonder how you can burn 200 watt of power in something that basically just has to convert 230V AC to 700V DC.

 

[Scandinavian]

The Taycan also has rather high charging loses. It seems to be always around 200Watt. Even if charging at 16A single phase.
I wonder how you can burn 200 watt of power in something that basically just has to convert 230V AC to 700V DC.

I thought that the test results and charging losses reflected charging at DC HPC not AC. But I may be wrong??

On an Ultra fast charge >250 kW, I can understand that there are losses since the cooling of the battery is needed, so pumps and cooling equipment on duty. But why Tesla and the Ford Mustang would be so low, does not make sense to me. My model 3 at 250 kW SuC certainly sounds like a jet ready for take off in warm weather! Same with Taycan.

I can understand the charging losses when charging on AC. Part is the conversion from AC to DC, as well as voltage upscaling, but other part is also the resistance in the battery that will heat up a bit. I have felt the heat from the charging system in the front of the Taycan. It also seems to start some pumps or fans judging by the noise.

My Tesla and Taycan on AC have shown to have similar losses when charging at home at 11 kW. Somewhere in the region of 7-9 %. Done this by comparing the consumption from my electrical panel to the value in the car.

Would be interesting to hear what Edmunds say about this huge difference, if one can reach out to them?

 

[whitex]

The Taycan also has rather high charging loses. It seems to be always around 200Watt. Even if charging at 16A single phase.
I wonder how you can burn 200 watt of power in something that basically just has to convert 230V AC to 700V DC.

I don't see Taycan having higher loses than other EV's. I charge at 19.2KW (US 240V@80A) at home, same loss as my Tesla Model S charging at the same speed, about 10% (so in this case, almost 2,000W). I would expect anything above 2KW to have ~10% loss. At sub 2KW the percentage may get larger due to certain fixed draw by the Taycan's computers/pumps/etc (same for Tesla by the way) which would start dominating.

 

[f1eng]

The Taycan also has rather high charging loses. It seems to be always around 200Watt. Even if charging at 16A single phase.
I wonder how you can burn 200 watt of power in something that basically just has to convert 230V AC to 700V DC.

The losses on mine have been more like 500W whenever I have checked. Probably mainly coolant pump, the coolant passage is long and complex.

It is a big proportion of the whole when charged on a 13A plug which I have had to do twice now. 2.6kW measured at the plug and 2.1kW reported on the Taycan screen.
On my home charger 7.2kW reported by the dispenser and 6.7kW on the Taycan display.

 

[n3ophyte]

I had a new Zappi 7kW EVSE installed today and I’m seeing a 9.2% charging loss.

Charger output …

… then at the Taycan battery …

 

[Scandinavian]

Then look at Polestar 17.7% loss!

 

[whitex]

Then look at Polestar 17.7% loss!

At what charging power?

 

[D00]

https://apple.news/A3F8gmAy3SNGMPnWXTQxoyg

"Our road testers rank every EV on UK sale on 1 December 2023 – and reveal the world’s best buys"


The portion about the Taycan for people who can't see behind the (Apple News) paywall...

"PORSCHE TAYCAN

THE GOOD: Still the best EV to drive: fast, responsive, fluid and even practical

THE BAD: You can get better range and efficiency for less money

THE UGLY: That Porsche options list can still drain your wallet

NEED TO KNOW: Much as every hatchback of the 2000s aimed to pinch the metaphorical crown from the Golf’s head (whether it was wearing it or not) every flagship EV from a prestige manufacturer in the last few years has been judged on whether or not it’s a ‘Tesla-beater’.

In the case of the Taycan, it most certainly is, though not based on numbers. Nevertheless boasting a decent real-world range and face-melting performance, it can’t outrun a Model S Plaid – but the Porsche driver will be having a far nicer time of it.

This remains the most joyful EV to drive, adeptly dealing with city traffic or motorway slogs but still absolutely capable of raising a full-width grin on a good road. For such a massive car it dispatches corners with aplomb while the alcantara-swaddled steering wheel is hooked up to a rack of splendid precision.

Middle child of five, the GTS is the car to go for – it gets 589bhp, with a less powerful front motor than its beefier Turbo and Turbo S siblings giving it more of a rear-driven character, while uprated suspension makes it a more purposeful offering than the regular Taycan 4 or 4S. No model is palatial, but you can opt for a Sport Turismo for a little extra boot practicality.

Various rivals will go faster, and further; they have more space, or better tech, or cost a whole lot less. None can compete with the Taycan for sheer driver enjoyment. And that’s why, in our countdown of the 87 electric cars on UK sale, it’s our Best Sports Car and the Best EV. Period.

THE ONE TO BUY: Middle child GTS hits the sweet spot of power, price and range

KEY DATA: Range 313 miles; efficiency 3.7 miles per kWh; max DC charging 20 minutes 10-80%"


If you're curious, they ranked Tesla Model 3 as #2 and Kia EV6 as #3. They ranked a total of 87 different vehicles.

Has anyone ever seen a range of 313 miles?

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