Anyone ever charged at an RV site? (U.S.)

[MoniqueDenver]

I've taken many road trips on my `21 CT 4 and have found the chargers plentiful. Now I'm looking at driving from Denver to Big Sky during ski season and now the chargers are, let's just say, spaced further apart. I'm thinking it might not be a bad idea to learn how to charge at an RV Park as an emergency back up. They are plentiful out West.

Also, there might be some times during the summer that I camp and would like to plug in overnight.

I believe that I have the Porsche mobile charger will work with the 5-15 and 14-50, but I'll need an adapter for the TT-30.

NEMA 5-15 120V I think this is a regular household plug and gives me 1.4kW (~3-4 mi/hr.) I get about 10%-20% charge overnight.
NEMA TT-30 120 V think that this is an RV outlet 2.9kW ~7-8mi/hr
NEMA - 14-50 RV/Dryer Outlet 240v I think that this is an RV outlet as well 7/2-9/6 kW, about the same charging sleep as a Level 2, charger, I

is there something I need to do to set the charging current differently to make it work/not blow up my car?

Anyone driven from Denver, through Wyoming, to Big Sky Montana? I'm hoping that with the Tesla network open to us, I won't be sweating it in Range mode.

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[whitex]

I’ve charged my Tesla at an RV plug (NEMA 14-50) on a trip once without problems. There is one aspect that is different with Porsche though, you cannot set/limit the charging current from the car side, so if an issue arises that you find a NEMA 14-50 but it trips its breaker at 40A or you know that the breaker is only 40A so you should charge at 32A, you might want to bring an EVSE which lets you control the charging current more finely than just 100%/50% (what Porsche EVSE lets you).

PS) remember you now can use Tesla superchargers, as long as you bring an adapter with you.

 

[Tooney]

Two old posts from @daveo4EV about RV park charging:
https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/t...trivial…it-took-me-2-hours.12194/#post-180582

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/t...-wish-to-over-do-it-….2343/page-7#post-107303

 

[MoniqueDenver]

Thanks! I did a search but "RV" was a tough term to search for and nothing came up.

 

[Flying ace]

I think the RV site charging is a legacy EV back up plan from 2014. Concept is obsolete today and unnecessarily complex. Consider these:

1. Porsche just gained access to Tesla. Even without the 150kw/400v booster, you still charge at 50kw, WAY faster than any RV site can provide. Many Tesla sites have food options, which allows you to maximize your time even with the slower charge.

1a. Also consider Rivian chargers in MT.

2. There are numerous RV plug adapters to bring, coupled with finding the campgrounds close to interstate, just to charge at max 9.6 kw is not worth the hassle nor time. Plus it's not free to charge at a campground, don't you have to rent a space?

3. I thought I read certain campgrounds prohibit EV charging.

Honestly, my backup plans are:

1. Proper pre-planning, not taking chances and driving efficiency discipline
2. Any Chargepoint "fast charger" at 50kw-62kw
3. Tesla at 50kw
4. ANY j1772 L2 plug

 

[MoniqueDenver]

Thanks, flying ace. Without Tesla chargers, I couldn't do the drive through Wyoming. Only one of the hotels in Big Sky has a slow charger and it's $30/night (valet), so I mapped out the Tesla chargers, including one in Big Sky town center. Luckily, a friend told me that not all Tesla chargers work with partner vehicles. (Could they make it anymore complicated?!?!) He sent me a link and only two Tesla chargers in the whole state of Wyoming work with the Taycans. The Big Sky one does not, so driving there isn't an option.

Had he not told me this, I would have been stuck, so I was looking for as many alternatives as possible.

And honestly, in some of these rural areas you're taking a chance by just assuming a charger works. My last trip from Denver to Tucson, had a number of issues with chargers, but there were alternatives. In WY there doesn't appear to be any.

 

[Dave Birch]

I think the RV site charging is a legacy EV back up plan from 2014. Concept is obsolete today and unnecessarily complex. Consider these:

1. Porsche just gained access to Tesla. Even without the 150kw/400v booster, you still charge at 50kw, WAY faster than any RV site can provide. Many Tesla sites have food options, which allows you to maximize your time even with the slower charge.

1a. Also consider Rivian chargers in MT.

2. There are numerous RV plug adapters to bring, coupled with finding the campgrounds close to interstate, just to charge at max 9.6 kw is not worth the hassle nor time. Plus it's not free to charge at a campground, don't you have to rent a space?

3. I thought I read certain campgrounds prohibit EV charging.

Honestly, my backup plans are:

1. Proper pre-planning, not taking chances and driving efficiency discipline
2. Any Chargepoint "fast charger" at 50kw-62kw
3. Tesla at 50kw
4. ANY j1772 L2 plug

I am so glad I don’t live in the US with your infrastructure. In UK multiple chargers on most routes have between 150 and 400 kw. Ionity and Porsche garages are my go to places. Many Tesla chargers allow non-Tesla without the need to carry adapters. Am I gloating? No just glad we have an ever improving infrastructure.

 

[whitex]

Thanks, flying ace. Without Tesla chargers, I couldn't do the drive through Wyoming. Only one of the hotels in Big Sky has a slow charger and it's $30/night (valet), so I mapped out the Tesla chargers, including one in Big Sky town center. Luckily, a friend told me that not all Tesla chargers work with partner vehicles. (Could they make it anymore complicated?!?!) He sent me a link and only two Tesla chargers in the whole state of Wyoming work with the Taycans. The Big Sky one does not, so driving there isn't an option.

Had he not told me this, I would have been stuck, so I was looking for as many alternatives as possible.

And honestly, in some of these rural areas you're taking a chance by just assuming a charger works. My last trip from Denver to Tucson, had a number of issues with chargers, but there were alternatives. In WY there doesn't appear to be any.

Have you tried using ABRP (after telling it that you have a Taycan with an adapter and want to use either CCS1 or compatible NACS chargers)?

 

[gtm]

I've taken many road trips on my `21 CT 4 and have found the chargers plentiful. Now I'm looking at driving from Denver to Big Sky during ski season and now the chargers are, let's just say, spaced further apart. I'm thinking it might not be a bad idea to learn how to charge at an RV Park as an emergency back up. They are plentiful out West.

Also, there might be some times during the summer that I camp and would like to plug in overnight.

I believe that I have the Porsche mobile charger will work with the 5-15 and 14-50, but I'll need an adapter for the TT-30.

NEMA 5-15 120V I think this is a regular household plug and gives me 1.4kW (~3-4 mi/hr.) I get about 10%-20% charge overnight.
NEMA TT-30 120 V think that this is an RV outlet 2.9kW ~7-8mi/hr
NEMA - 14-50 RV/Dryer Outlet 240v I think that this is an RV outlet as well 7/2-9/6 kW, about the same charging sleep as a Level 2, charger, I

is there something I need to do to set the charging current differently to make it work/not blow up my car?

Anyone driven from Denver, through Wyoming, to Big Sky Montana? I'm hoping that with the Tesla network open to us, I won't be sweating it in Range mode.

You are heading into something of a charging desert. Here is what I would suggest for a road trip charging kit.

Purchase the Tesla Mobile Connector. 1/3 the size of the Porsche connector and far easier to use.
Purchase the Tesla Adapter Bundle. This might be overkill. Or get just a few individual adapters based on what you think you will need.
Purchase a NACS to J1772 adapter (Tesla Tap Mini). Necessary to use the Mobile Charger and handy for every J1772 car for access to Tesla Destination Chargers, and you probably already have one.

Cost can add up depending on how many adapters you pick, but you could have access to every plug out there except a TT30P (TT30P male to 14-50 female adapters exist).

 

[daveo4EV]

I'll just humbly leave this here for review - in case any one wants to consider what to take with them for charging desert kit's…

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/t...and-useful-road-warrior-ev-charging-kit.6812/

 

[whitex]

You are heading into something of a charging desert. Here is what I would suggest for a road trip charging kit.

Purchase the Tesla Mobile Connector. 1/3 the size of the Porsche connector and far easier to use.
Purchase the Tesla Adapter Bundle. This might be overkill. Or get just a few individual adapters based on what you think you will need.
Purchase a NACS to J1772 adapter (Tesla Tap Mini). Necessary to use the Mobile Charger and handy for every J1772 car for access to Tesla Destination Chargers, and you probably already have one.

Cost can add up depending on how many adapters you pick, but you could have access to every plug out there except a TT30P (TT30P male to 14-50 female adapters exist).

You forgot CCS1 to NACS adapter.

 

[gtm]

You forgot CCS1 to NACS adapter.

I'm missing something. How would this be of use on a J1.1 Taycan? NACS to CCS1 perhaps?
MoniqueDenver must already have a NACS to CCS1 since she's planning on using Tesla Superchargers.

 

[whitex]

I'm missing something. How would this be of use on a J1.1 Taycan? NACS to CCS1 perhaps?
MoniqueDenver must already have a NACS to CCS1 since she's planning on using Tesla Superchargers.

"CCS1 to NACS" or "NACS to CCS1" is a matter of perspective. Obviously for a CCS1 car you want ability to plug in NACS handle to CCS1 port.

 

[daveo4EV]

my made up convention is to list the plug you're using first and the chargeport type on the vehicle 2nd - but most of the world's population missed my memo on that…so we're stuck with ambiguity

• CCS1 Native Vehicles need: NACS to CCS1 adapter (NACS charging cord to a CCS1 charging port on the vehicle)
• NACS Native Vehicles need: CCS1 to NACS adapter (CCS1 charging cord to a NACS charging port on the vehicle)

so the current generation Taycan/Macan will benefit from NACS to CCS Adapter ($185 from Porsche or included with your vehicle purchase - YMMV)

the upcoming Cayenne EV is NACS native for North America - so it will benefit from a CCS to NACS adapter - you can purchase one from Tesla https://shop.tesla.com/product/ccs-combo-1-adapter?web=true for $300 or Lectron for https://ev-lectron.com/products/lec...ast-charge-your-tesla-with-ccs-chargers-black for $110.99

but again that's just me - YMMV

 

[Flying ace]

have you considered going through the western route via Green River?

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