Adaptive Cruise Control

[garegin]

ok, thanks for the intel. I don’t see it in my Porsche connect store as an option at all, unfortunately. I can check my in a few weeks. what’s the contact info for Porsche CS you are referring to?

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[SergeyIndy]

ok, thanks for the intel. I don’t see it in my Porsche connect store as an option at all, unfortunately. I can check my in a few weeks. what’s the contact info for Porsche CS you are referring to?

I would call the main number PCNA: 1-800-767-7243 and there is a Porsche Connect option to press to speak to someone who can help look it up by your VIN. I think it is worth getting it while you can as a one-time FOD purchase so you get InnoDrive with ALK.

 

[Jonathan S.]

OTA for PID and ALK with my MY22 4CT (which came with only ACC) worked seamlessly via FOD.
(Is that enough alphabet soup?)
Although PID was so puzzling that I cancelled it long before my three-month trial period ended.
(ALK by contrast is just fine, as is ACC.)

 

[gtm]

Please let us know if you are able to buy the function via a software update or subscription. I have a BMW where the active steering is excellent. I have heard the function on the Porsche (pre 2025) is not as good as BMW’s so for those who do have it how good is it?

I just finished a 2,300 mile round trip for Thanksgiving, almost all of that on interstate highways. Innodrive was great. Made for a much more relaxing and safer trip. I Can't compare it to BMW's system but I can to Tesla's basic autopilot. Very comparable. Stays centered, reacts to traffic ahead and stops with consistent behavior when the car in front stops. No driver intervention needed other than an occasional nudge on the steering wheel. Makes playing with the PCM and route planning much safer. I hit a lot of stop and go traffic ranging from a couple of MPH to highway speeds and it handled it all.

 

[eisenb11]

Call Porsche customer service if it's not showing up in the store. I had that problem as well and the folks in Germany had to do something to make the option come up. After that, I got ALK through FOD.

But... be known that ALK is absolutely not hands free. It's a driver assist, but it will disengage with absolutely no notice then re-engage all the time. I find using it on long drives to be more relaxing as I can "mostly" pay attention, but I'm still kind of going through the motions because you don't know when it'll decide to turn off for a little bit.

If you're expecting total hands-free like BMW or mostly-hands-free like Tesla Autopilot, you're going to be in for a bit of a surprise (I had a Tesla prior to the Taycan).

That said, I do like the feature and am glad I have it, but you may have to set your expectations and driving habits accordingly with regard to what ALK does and doesn't do.

 

[rim23]

I agree with the previous post. Don’t expect BMW level of driving assist. I also drove X5 g05 before Taycan.. and now I’m driving G60. You can forget about everything other than adaptive cruise control on Taycan. If you want superior assistants, then it’s a wrong car. Enjoy the ride, it’s very a driver’s car. I enjoyed it for 2 years and time to change came. Thus, I’m again on BMW (i5m60 this time), which surprisingly drives very well.

 

[Mikesd23]

I would call the main number PCNA: 1-800-767-7243 and there is a Porsche Connect option to press to speak to someone who can help look it up by your VIN. I think it is worth getting it while you can as a one-time FOD purchase so you get InnoDrive with ALK.

you think worth a shot for a my25 to try? I bought speccing with ACC but not innodrive/alk because assumed it would be a FOD option. I called porsche NA a few months back and they were clueless. Dealer likewise in the dark.

quite disappointing. I never heard of peeling back tech in this day in age. Nice car, but backwards as far as a company.

 

[SergeyIndy]

you think worth a shot for a my25 to try? I bought speccing with ACC but not innodrive/alk because assumed it would be a FOD option. I called porsche NA a few months back and they were clueless. Dealer likewise in the dark.

quite disappointing. I never heard of peeling back tech in this day in age. Nice car, but backwards as far as a company.

I think it does not hurt to call but for MY25 there is no official support in press release form. However, I would think they will offer it in the future. I know that Taycan platform is different from Macan EV, but for Macan EV they have Porsche Digital Key for example on the roadmap for 2025.

 

[DNADoc]

Before you go ahead and spend money for the steering option, be aware that I have it and don't really like it. I find that the system makes corrections a bit later than I would so the car is continuously weaving inside the lane. At slow speeds this is less apparent.

The other notable downside is that even at low speeds when the steering is reasonable, the car will only let you use it for a proscribed amount of time the car requires that you take over the steering.

 

[garegin]

Huh. Good to know. I will say I loved this feature in my BMW and it worked great. Surprised the Porsche one doesn't work as well.

 

[Jonathan S.]

With one small exception, I have not noticed any significant differences with the ADAS in my 2022 Audi A6 Allroad, 2023 BMW i4 M50, and 2022 4CT -- with the Taycan having ACC and ALK (via FOD), but not PID (which I tried briefly then discontinued).

The one exception is the neat-o BMW feature that if you start signaling on the interstate, it will automatically and hands-free change lanes for you, but if -- and only if -- you're in the clear.
So it essentially acts as a veto on an attempted lane change should you miss the BSW indicator.

Otherwise, all these steering systems act merely as corrections for unintended lane draft, and will quickly prompt you upon some combo of not touching the steering wheel and/or not providing any steering input.

I like to use auto regen on both the Taycan and i4 as a kind of ADAS, and find the i4 is a bit more aggressive in slow down in city traffic whereas the Taycan is more aggress on the highways, but they both work well.
The A6ar of course lacks that, but it does have a nifty little green foot-on-pedal indicator in the HUD that appears when the speed limit is about to drop so that you don't keep needlessly giving it gas.

And the ACC works impressively well on all three cars.

Meanwhile:


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Kyle Conner


Tesla FSD has now finally reached the point where it’s insanely incredible and everyone in the auto industry needs to demo it
Not saying it’s perfect but I’m still having issues with other systems just handling basic corners (cough, lucid) and this system is in another league of capability compared to any other ADAS on the market.

Kyle Conner
‪*additional note* ‬right after writing this it drove over a curb

ok still some tuning needed but overall incredible experience everyone should try

 

[garegin]

Alright, Porsche Customer Service was able to fix the bug and now these two show up on my connect store.

I was going to ask. Active Lane Keep seems worth it, but Porsche InnoDrive seems totally not worth it. I mean I already have adaptive cruise control that adjusts speed based on the car in front of me or the max I have set. Is Porsche InnoDrive just reading the speed limit signs and following those? Because I would never use that.

 

[Jonathan S.]

^ That was exactly my experience with PID.

 

[ZenicaNC]

My MY24 4S was optioned with ACC. In June 2024, I purchased the two necessary subscriptions to activate ALK and Innodrive. The cost was $25/month for each. Worked out to be less the money than purchasing outright over the life of my lease.
FWIW, the Innodrive is okay but not great. The traffic jam function is invaluable where I drive. Unfortunately, one must purchase the Innovdrive and ALK to have the traffic jam assist available. Typical Porsche gouge.

What is the traffic jam function? I might add Innodrive if it is valuable to me.

EDIT:

Read up on it. Hmm, not sure MY2020 has that. I had Innodrive as a sub for a while and never saw anything that mentioned a Traffic Jam feature.

 

[SergeyIndy]

What is the traffic jam function? I might add Innodrive if it is valuable to me.

EDIT:

Read up on it. Hmm, not sure MY2020 has that. I had Innodrive as a sub for a while and never saw anything that mentioned a Traffic Jam feature.

Traffic Jam part of ALK (per printed brochure from 2020 even before the big colored icon update), but not spelled out in the PCM screens. Traffic Jam basically means that that the adaptive cruising works from at speeds below ACC operating range that starts (guessing) 19mph or above.

What I do not know to address @garegin question if InnoDrive is required to have ALK operate from 0mph speeds. I can test it today by having InnoDrive off but ACC and ALK on, although all my features are from factory.

My advice to @garegin would be to just get ALK first and see if having ACC and ALK on, the car actually comes to a complete stop then restarts, evidence of Traffic Jam assist.

Otherwise, I agree with others, if the plan is not to obey traffic sign speed limits, most turn that off who have InnoDrive, then there is no point of InnoDrive as its intent is to adjust to speed limits, adjust to terrain by proactively slowing down in bends or exit ramps.

The last thing we learned from this thread to never trust the dealer people of what is possible. Most of them have no passion to learn things about our cars the way we do, nor I expect them to.

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