Adaptive cruise control?

[oalsaker]

I got it for my Audi and expected to use it on the autobahn but the traffic was so unpredictable that I almost had no use for it. I tend to use it if I am driving on a highway and the people in front start yo-yo driving. Then I don't have to pay attention to their oscillating gas pedal tendencies and my mood is greatly improved.

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[Charlie_P]

Does anyone have a video of a Taycan with InnoDrive in action?

 

[dk2020]

Does the Taycan have Porsche Active Safe (PAS, helps prevent forward collision)? If so, do you need Adaptive Cruise Control to have PAS? I don't see anything in the literature regarding PAS whereas in other Porsche models this is usually packaged with ACC and is explicitly stated as such. For the Taycan, just says ACC without any mention of PAS.

 

[MissionC]

Does the Taycan have Porsche Active Safe (PAS, helps prevent forward collision)? If so, do you need Adaptive Cruise Control to have PAS? I don't see anything in the literature regarding PAS whereas in other Porsche models this is usually packaged with ACC and is explicitly stated as such. For the Taycan, just says ACC without any mention of PAS.

In the Taycan it’s called Warning and Brake Assist (WBA) — you can find a description in the Good To Know app. It doesn’t appear to require ACC as it’s categorized as a Basic Assist feature.

 

[PanameraFrank]

In the Taycan it’s called Warning and Brake Assist (WBA) — you can find a description in the Good To Know app. It doesn’t appear to require ACC as it’s categorized as a Basic Assist feature.

Correct, my car does not have ACC or Innodrive and does have WBA. At least standard in US. I won't test it out, though.

 

[wmras]

Correct, my car does not have ACC or Innodrive and does have WBA. At least standard in US. I won't test it out, though.

Good to not test! The description for PAS in our Macan Turbo states "minimize damage", not "avoid contact"!

 

[jimithing]

Good to not test! The description for PAS in our Macan Turbo states "minimize damage", not "avoid contact"!

PAS in my Macan Turbo saved me from a wreck once. It preloads the brakes for max stopping power if it seems your closing rate increasingto a high level. The scenario involved someone cutting off the car in front of me, then the car in front of me slammed on its brakes.

I don't think it will engage fully autonomously unless it's sure you're going to crash (hence the "reduced damage" note) but it can still be helpful my wife demanded I get ACC bc of this. I rarely use ACC.

 

[PNWTaycan4S]

Just wondering what people think of the Adaptive Cruise Control? For a Porsche driver, letting the car drive you seems odd. Thoughts?

I think I’m glad I got ACC, but only time will tell. I suspect I really need to read the dang manual to set it properly.

In my first highway drive at 75, under a 70 MPH speed sign, when the traffic sign hit 60, the car violently braked to reduce speed. This was not good, as others behind me also had to quickly brake. Quite scary, and I never had this issue in my Volvo. I suspect a setting will hopefully cure.

Likely my fault, but Volvo has a easy setting, enabled by intuitive controls on the steering wheel, to adjust the distance between your car and the car in front of you, Quite handy depending on traffic speed. It also never violently braked upon a lower speed limit sign.

The InnoDrive is a bit weird and hopefully will improve with OTA software. It’s a bit clumsy keeping the car in the lane, weaving back and forth. The biggest issue is when you come to an off ramp, as it wants to take it. Almost takes more effort to have it on, then off.

Rear cross traffic alert missing is inexcusable. I’ll read the manual, so maybe it’s there, but if not, a big “F.” One of the best parts of my Volvo.

Once again, I should read the manual, which I never did with my Volvo. Perhaps Porsche should buy some Volvos and Teslas, as there might be some good lessons there.

I’d likely buy it again, and hope Porsche’s software engineers will improve it over time.

 

[wmras]

I think I’m glad I got ACC, but only time will tell. I suspect I really need to read the dang manual to set it properly.

In my first highway drive at 75, under a 70 MPH speed sign, when the traffic sign hit 60, the car violently braked to reduce speed. This was not good, as others behind me also had to quickly brake. Quite scary, and I never had this issue in my Volvo. I suspect a setting will hopefully cure.

Did you have the Taycan in Sport or Sport+ mode? Our Macan Turbo Adaptive Cruise Control changes behavior significantly between modes and drives very aggressively in Sport+ mode and only slightly less aggressive in Sport mode (no Taycan delivery).

 

[Squarecircle]

I did order acc and its my first car with it. Thought it would be useful when stuck in traffic on the motorway. Got to use if for the first time the other day.

After the initial feeling of it breaking too late, l started to get used to it. The breaking, once it does kick in is very smooth. Became really useful on the trip and allows you to use the touchscreens without too much fear of rear ending the car in front. Pulls away on its own well also.

 

[LukeManning]

WBA or if you want to think of it as Porsche Active Safe is Standard in the Taycan. (also Standard in the Cayenne, optionally in the Panamera, Macan, and 911 if you get ACC).

I would 100% get Porsche InnoDrive on the Taycan. Incredible system, especially given the price for it compared to just getting ACC.

If you don't care so much about semi-autonomous driving and don't like ACC, then I would just avoid getting it altogether. Keep in mind though you can just use ACC if you get InnoDrive, or turn the system off altogether.

I do however think InnoDrive will be a worthwhile upgrade as far as resale value goes, whereas something like Passengers Display or 4 Zone Climate Control might not add that much true value to the car.

 

[rquinton]

WBA or if you want to think of it as Porsche Active Safe is Standard in the Taycan. (also Standard in the Cayenne, optionally in the Panamera, Macan, and 911 if you get ACC).

I would 100% get Porsche InnoDrive on the Taycan. Incredible system, especially given the price for it compared to just getting ACC.

If you don't care so much about semi-autonomous driving and don't like ACC, then I would just avoid getting it altogether. Keep in mind though you can just use ACC if you get InnoDrive, or turn the system off altogether.

I do however think InnoDrive will be a worthwhile upgrade as far as resale value goes, whereas something like Passengers Display or 4 Zone Climate Control might not add that much true value to the car.

I spoke to PNA and the spokesman said you can't get Innodrive on FoD unless you already have ACC. Not sure most spirited Porsche drivers want ACC to take over their driving for them. This is why I am torn on getting it. Is it worth having ACC in the hopes that Innodrive will be thought of better by owners as it improves?

 

[LukeManning]

I spoke to PNA and the spokesman said you can't get Innodrive on FoD unless you already have ACC. Not sure most spirited Porsche drivers want ACC to take over their driving for them. This is why I am torn on getting it. Is it worth having ACC in the hopes that Innodrive will be thought of better by owners as it improves?

This is a true statement. You will NOT be able to get InnoDrive as a FOD if you do not order ACC in your original configuration. The camera system utilized for ACC and InnoDrive is not installed on the car if you do not option it on originally.

Personally, I look at it this way. When I used to work for Tesla and AutoPilot was offered as an option, there was a slowly rising "take rate" for optioning it on the car. At first I'd say it was more 50/50 but over time pretty much everyone wanted it on the car. Now that AutoPilot (Not FSD) is standard on all Tesla models, everyone who was thinking of doing it but didn't for some reason seems to love the system and didn't see why the hesitated in getting it in the first place on prior cars.

I think if you want to appeal to the widest swath of potential Taycan buyers, and have a system that is incredible to use then I would option InnoDrive - in my opinion the cost of InnoDrive is very inexpensive - we used to charge anywhere from $5k-$10k for AutoPilot at Tesla...

Also, if an owner doesn't like the system you can always turn it completely off.

 

[jheard]

Yes. Innodrive works much like Tesla autopilot. When it is engaged it tracks the lane you are in and the car in front and steers and brakes. There’s more to it than that, but that’s the basic function.

Generally ACC doesn’t steer.

Hopefully better than Tesla which regularly tries to kill me !

 

[nwills]

Can anyone actually confirm that Innodrive will be available as an FOD upgrade for a car fitted with ACC? I saw a thread confirming that the 2020 will be able to have FOD and that Innodrive will be available but it seems a little speculative for the time being?

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