Feedback From Current Owners Please

[feye]

Actually I compared a 2018 Model 3 LR (RWD). It's a lot faster than my RWD Taycan.

It pains me to say this but it's true.

I think the pain will be alleviated if you imagining going down a hill 40 mph...

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[feye]

Looking at 0-60 times and costs is like saying "well A has bigger boobs", and "B has a wealthier family." So what.

Just to clarify: "T has bigger boobs", and "P has a wealthier family."?

 

[DerekS]

I think the pain will be alleviated if you imagining going down a hill 40 mph...

To be clear, I'm really just talking off the line performance. The Model 3 feels like it has a little more punch.

That being said, I am not unhappy with the car. There are lots of little software bugs to fix, but I'm glad I went this route.

The way I see it there's a clear tradeoff between tech and driving experience. Go Tesla if the tech is important, go Taycan if the driving experience is.

 

[Bluebeauty]

Hi All,

I have a Tesla Model S P100D and recently also put a deposit on a Porsche Taycan 4S (with performance battery). Both cars are great and have their own pros/cons. There is no doubt that the Porsche is awesome build quality. I was just wondering if some current owners of the same model (4S with performance battery) could give some thoughts of their experience, e.g. range, issues with the car etc.

This is my first post, so I wish to thank all in advance.

Had a Model X for four years along with a Cayenne Diesel. No interest in keeping the X or in any other Tesla model, ever. The many issues with Teslas in general have been well-documented here and on other forums. Traded the Cayenne on a new custom build Taycan 4S with performance battery (and many other options) and for me, absolutely no comparison. As others on this thread have indicated, the backup camera is not great, and any Taycan is expensive as hell, but there is nothing else about the car that causes me even a moment of gritted teeth while there is plenty about the car which makes it a joy to drive. No range issues for me - in “normal” driving mode, the range indicated is the range I get, even at a steady 120-130kph (65-70mph). With an 80% charge, range is appx 360km. 100% charge (which is infrequent and only necessary for a long road trip) gives appx 420km (260m). Only you can decide if that’s enough for you. You may also read about some software and/or other issues experienced by some Taycan owners. I can only say I have not encountered any in four months/8,000km so far.

 

[badboy1980]

Had a Model X for four years along with a Cayenne Diesel. No interest in keeping the X or in any other Tesla model, ever. The many issues with Teslas in general have been well-documented here and on other forums. Traded the Cayenne on a new custom build Taycan 4S with performance battery (and many other options) and for me, absolutely no comparison. As others on this thread have indicated, the backup camera is not great, and any Taycan is expensive as hell, but there is nothing else about the car that causes me even a moment of gritted teeth while there is plenty about the car which makes it a joy to drive. No range issues for me - in “normal” driving mode, the range indicated is the range I get, even at a steady 120-130kph (65-70mph). With an 80% charge, range is appx 360km. 100% charge (which is infrequent and only necessary for a long road trip) gives appx 420km (260m). Only you can decide if that’s enough for you. You may also read about some software and/or other issues experienced by some Taycan owners. I can only say I have not encountered any in four months/8,000km so far.

Thanks John. I know that the Taycan UI is not the best but the car itself rocks.

 

[RCorsa]

I have a model 3P and in the past have had two model s including a p100 and model xp100. I currently drive the Taycan 4s as a daily and my wife drives the Tesla u til our daughter gets her license then it’s hers and the wife will get another electric suv (maybe the BMW or Audi)

The model 3 at 100% gets around 300 miles and my Taycan gets 290. If you turn the ac to eco it goes to 300. The Taycan feels miles better in every way a driver “feels” a car. The autopilot on Tesla is great but that’s it IMO. I use wireless CarPlay in the Porsche so I actually like the Nav/music etc better in the porsche. They feel about equally as fast

 

[FrozenRobert]

Never a Tesla owner here, but I did a lot of research before deciding on the Taycan.

Drove the current Tesla models here in Canada at my local dealer earlier this Summer 2021. Right from the 1st drive I really disliked the car. My mother was along for the ride and hated it even more, I think she left permanent gouges in the sweeping dash with her nails.

I really was not impressed with the Tesla ride & build quality. Noisy, rough, unrefined.

The earlier post re: Tesla = tech, Porsche = drive. That's what it boils down to for me.

Absolutely no regrets going with the Taycan.

 

[RehobothTaycan1]

Also is the Eco Mode for the AC any good? What’s the difference between that and running AC?

I only use Eco mode and it feels pretty normal to me. I did a three hour trip home yesterday (around ~210 miles) and ran Eco mode the entire time, as it was low to mid 90’s outside. At times it felt too cold and I had to turn up the temp inside a degree or two. When I got home I had over 100 miles of range left (I started at 100%). Couldn’t be happier with the car.

 

[faroutinNM]

I only use Eco mode and it feels pretty normal to me. I did a three hour trip home yesterday (around ~210 miles) and ran Eco mode the entire time, as it was low to mid 90’s outside. At times it felt too cold and I had to turn up the temp inside a degree or two. When I got home I had over 100 miles of range left (I started at 100%). Couldn’t be happier with the car.

Same with me.

In my case, I have been running in ECO mode a lot (usually via switching to Range mode when on smooth city streets or open highways). I keep the temperature set at 78 F, and sometimes use just a brief blast of Max AC when first settling in after a walk in the hot sun.

...And like you, the car continues to delight me.

Odometer's at 2700 miles, including trips around and slightly out of town (sometimes with my baby grandson and/or my daughter's dog loaded into the carefully lined back seat, and sometimes with outdoor cats that we are TNRing (resting in their traps) loaded into my carefully lined cargo area) and a few nice recreational road trips up to Santa Fe and one to Manitou Springs. Total Trip consumption is stabilizing under 30 kWh per 100 miles, and lately it's showing a full charge range well over 300 miles. No rattles, no power loss, no disappointments, no regrets, only hopes for continued reliability.

 

[amazing]

I've never owned a Tesla but driven a model 3 and model S multiple times, and I had never owned an EV before buying the Taycan but have owned other Porsche cars (911, 928). The feedback you get I think will always have some bias because there are Tesla and Porsche fanboys on both sides of the argument.

With that being said I was nervous waiting for my delivery as I read more and more issues people were having with their Taycans and was starting to think that I would be very expensive beta tester.

However all in all I've been impressed with Taycan, and even from the areas (tech, convenience, etc) that most people would give Teslas higher marks. With a Tesla it's pretty clear the range, battery, straight line acceleration gives it an edge. Autopilot on Tesla works better than Innovodrive and makes more sense, mainly because it was designed from the ground up. But if you've ever driven a Porsche, especially a 911, 718, 928, one of the performance cars and not the SUVs you know that there is an inexplicable feeling of being connected to the car and have a driving experience that no one will claim from a Tesla. To me, a Tesla is like driving an iPhone on wheels. Similar to Apple all the tech is totally proprietary.

What I think Porsche has gotten truly correct is creating an EV that still feels like you are driving a Porsche. Yes, it is incredibly heavy and will understeer going through a corner, but the driving experience I don't think I am missing much from a 911, especially when I get added space, electric charging, etc.

Also the Tesla Supercharging network has a bigger foot print, and people have had problems with charging their Taycans, as mentioned in forums posts, but my experience with Electrify America the handful of times I've used them is that there has always been an open 350 kW charger and I've also gotten plug and charge to work successfully on each try (YMMV).

So, my feedback would be that if you like Tesla as a brand then get a Tesla, if you like Porsche as a brand then get a Porsche. I don't think that there is such amazing difference in EV capabilities that it should pressure you to get one vehicle or another. They are both excellent EVs with different brand strategies.

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