Base Taycan range: less? more? or average?

[2P168S]

I have the base (RWD) with the small battery. I saw 250 miles in the spring (minimal a/c load) and around 230 miles now in the heat of summer here in Georgia.

Extrapolating to the larger battery, that would be 295 miles in the spring and 270 miles in the summer.

So 257 miles at 85% (which is ~300 miles at 100%) is in line or slightly better than my experience.

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[NewtoEV]

I have the base (RWD) with the small battery. I saw 250 miles in the spring (minimal a/c load) and around 230 miles now in the heat of summer here in Georgia.

Extrapolating to the larger battery, that would be 295 miles in the spring and 270 miles in the summer.

So 257 miles at 85% (which is ~300 miles at 100%) is in line or slightly better than my experience.

Appreciate the feedback. Thx!

 

[mandoyoda]

3.7mi/kW how do you get that? What are your tires? I have 2.7mi/kW and on a good day 2.9mi/kW. Or is the American mile larger than an British one?

I have the larger PB+ battery, with 21-inch Exclusive Design wheels, with Goodyear Asymmetric tyres.

Summer range is between 298 to 313 miles. Some people have managed to get 4.0 miles per kW on here.

British miles used to be dependent on which king’s foot was doing the measuring.

 

[Alfa]

I have the larger PB+ battery, with 21-inch Exclusive Design wheels, with Goodyear Asymmetric tyres.

Summer range is between 298 to 313 miles. Some people have managed to get 4.0 miles per kW on here.

I also have 21” with Goodyear (Eagle) Tires that come with the GTS. But I do have the RS Spyder design wheels. Maybe it’s the Regen setting? I have mine set to off because the uneven (de)acceleration of one pedal driving makes me feel queasy and coasting is just nicer.

 

[Archimedes]

Again, these range discussions are useless without knowing average speeds and driving style. Those have way more impact on range than car specs, battery size, or number of motors.

Go into the MyPosche app, click on Trip Data, then click on Total. If your average speed is high 30’s, your 100% range will be around 220. If it’s mid to low 20’s, your 100% range will be in the 260-300 range.

 

[Alfa]

Again, these range discussions are useless without knowing average speeds and driving style. Those have way more impact on range than car specs, battery size, or number of motors.

Tires can have a lot of impact. I just assumed high way driving near the speed limit with no congestion on a long road trip which should be as optimal as it gets.

 

[Archimedes]

Tires can have a lot of impact. I just assumed high way driving near the speed limit with no congestion on a long road trip which should be as optimal as it gets.

Minimal compared to speed and driving style. If you want more range, the simplest way is to drive slower and accelerate more slowly. The people who quote high ranges on here have average speeds in the mid to low 20’s. Their experience is irrelevant unless you drive similarly.

 

[BMonte13]

22 RWD with PB+, 20 inch tires, and 13K miles on it. Drove back and forth from home to San Fran airport today and this is my trip data.

 

[Archimedes]

You need to click on ‘Total’…

Single trip data is pretty meaningless.

 

[tchavei]

As @Archimedes already said, it depends on driving style and speed.

During city driving I get 408km at 100%

Put me on a family trip with lots of highways and it's 370km at 100% in best case scenario. Start moving lots above 130km/h and range is going to suffer.

I heard people managing 550km in city driving. How? No idea. Certainly not with my driving style. I'm generally not a speeder but I refuse to drive a Porsche like a Toyota on its last breath. Car is meant to be fun. Who cares for more or less 50km range.

 

[bluedonkey]

Just got a base model Taycan (love it)! I have the performance battery plus. The dealer recommended an 85% charge overnight. It works out to be around 257 miles. Is that "normal"? I am fine with that number, but I don’t know whether it should be higher or lower. Any and all input from the group is welcome.

My 4S only gets ~250 miles at 100%. You're getting over 300 from a full charge. In my experience, the Taycan range estimates are pretty good, and with a destination set in the navigation it is really good. The predicted arrival percentage is normally within 1-2% of the reality, and tends to be more pessimistic.

 

[EddieD]

Just got a base model Taycan (love it)! I have the performance battery plus. The dealer recommended an 85% charge overnight. It works out to be around 257 miles. Is that "normal"? I am fine with that number, but I don’t know whether it should be higher or lower. Any and all input from the group is welcome.

I have a MY 2022 RWD with PB+ and getting about 225 miles at 85% charge which adjusts to 263 at full charge. I drive exclusively in sport mode and have the mission E 21 inch wheels with summer tires. I also live in Scottsdale Arizona. I think my range is pretty good considering driving style and the wheels. I was told the mission E wheels will cost me about 30 miles in range. It will probably take a few weeks for you to get to full range so if your car is brand new, it should get better. If you’re getting 257 at 85% that should be about 300 at 100% which is about the same as mine adjusted for my wheels. Enjoy your new ride!

 

[f1eng]

Tires can have a lot of impact. I just assumed high way driving near the speed limit with no congestion on a long road trip which should be as optimal as it gets.

The steady driving near the speed limit being optimum is true for IC engines but not electric motors.
IC engines have a very narrow speed band where they have good efficiency and power, hence the need for multi-ratio gearboxes.
Whether the gear ratios are chosen for fuel consumption of performance mainly depends on the target customer.

It all goes down to the gas flow and burn speed varying with speed and whilst fuelling is much better with injection than carburettors and the ignitian timing can vary with speed quite accurately so the spark happens at the ideal time in the cycle (optimum varies with speed and load) the valve timing and overlap are only optimum at a single engine speed and generally having variable timing is too expensive to do on most engines.
Hence the very non-flat and narrow power curve of an IC engine.

An electric motor is unaffected by the vagiaries of air flow, fuel atomisation and ignition timing so it is not only a lot more efficient but also has a wide flat power curve starting from zero rpm so needs neither a clutch nor a lot of gear ratios.
The power consumption of an EV is therefore far less influenced by power unit efficiency - it is always good - so the big thing is simply how efficiently you drive.

Speeding up and slowing down is worse in an IC engine, both engine efficiency and energy lost in brake heat, compared to an electric motor, plus most EVs recuperate kinetic energy into the battery rather than heating the brakes.

So EVs are massively better in towns than IC engined cars but suffer the same aerodynamic drag at steady speed on a motorway so don't have much of an advantage here.

 

[Throb]

You need to click on ‘Total’…

That depends on whether he's reset "total" or not. I reset my total quite a lot, often if I want the data for a whole journey that will have a break of more than two hours in the middle.

 

[Chas1]

My base '22 with mission-e tires gets about 205 miles full range (100%) with smaller battery and typically city spirited driving.

If you drive highways...anything over 70mph will detract more as you go faster from your mpg as wind resistance plays a large part! I saw about 35% worse mileage as I exceeded (alot) posted limits.

I think tyre size makes quite a bit of difference. RWD 21” spyder wheels and I achieve 260 at 100%. But have seen 285 on longer trips and down about 240 . Entirely depends on driving style just like an iCE.

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