How much off MSRP for the different purchase options

[Stan]

I'm wondering how much (if any) off MRSP I might get for the three buying options: CPO, new on the lot, and factory order.
I live in Vancouver Canada.
The dealer told me that for a factory order, the price that's shown on the configurator is the price - no discount (like Tesla).
For a new Taycan on the lot, he offered $2000 as a loyalty discount (i.e. new Porsche customer).
I forgot to ask about a lower negotiated price for CPO.

What are other's experiences?

Thanks,
Stan

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[refazi]

You can easily get 10-15% off a CPO, it all depends on how long it sits on the lot and what's the dealers volume, also on Taycan, lease - never buy.

 

[W1NGE]

I'm wondering how much (if any) off MRSP I might get for the three buying options: CPO, new on the lot, and factory order.
I live in Vancouver Canada.
The dealer told me that for a factory order, the price that's shown on the configurator is the price - no discount (like Tesla).
For a new Taycan on the lot, he offered $2000 as a loyalty discount (i.e. new Porsche customer).
I forgot to ask about a lower negotiated price for CPO.

What are other's experiences?

Thanks,
Stan

No discount on factory orders.

Stock- negotiate but 2K sounds about right.

CPO - buyers market

 

[RAHRCR]

In mid-2025, I would buy a CPO for about 40-50% off MSRP and enjoy it until the next gen of EVs are released.

 

[Stan]

In mid-2025, I would buy a CPO for about 40-50% off MSRP and enjoy it until the next gen of EVs are released.

Thanks for the suggestion. You've encouraged me to look into this Mamba green 2022 4S CT that I saw early on in my search but wrote it off immediately because it was old gen. But this car is well spec'd, AND it solves the decision making on the colour (Gentian blue vs Oak green) as both my wife and I love Mamba green. Its had one accident, but for the right price, I might go for it.

Is there a way to figure out the MSRP on this car with the given options? A quick search showed that the base price of this car is $128,000 CAN. I'd guess that the options might add $30K CAN.

https://finder.porsche.com/ca/en-CA...rior-color-groups=ext-silver&int_id=inventory

 

[RAHRCR]

Thanks for the suggestion. You've encouraged me to look into this Mamba green 2022 4S CT that I saw early on in my search but wrote it off immediately because it was old gen. But this car is well spec'd, AND it solves the decision making on the colour (Gentian blue vs Oak green) as both my wife and I love Mamba green. Its had one accident, but for the right price, I might go for it.

Is there a way to figure out the MSRP on this car with the given options? A quick search showed that the base price of this car is $128,000 CAN. I'd guess that the options might add $30K CAN.

https://finder.porsche.com/ca/en-CA...rior-color-groups=ext-silver&int_id=inventory

I have seen folks in this forum pull up the full spec sheet using the VIN but I don’t know how to do it myself.

 

[whitex]

When did this car enter service (i.e. delivered to first customer, meaning battery and car warranty started)? It could be a 3 year or car, or a 4 year car. How does its price compare to other similar Taycans CTs (if you can find them)?

For the original sticker price, ask the dealer, they should be able to pull the original sticker and/or build sheet. If they don’t want to show you (you might start expecting a higher discount), there is probably a service online somewhere which can pull it up for a small fee - in the US they typically charge between $10-$30.

 

[tophamn]

There is probably a service online somewhere which can pull it up for a small fee - in the US they typically charge between $10-$30.

https://vinanalytics.com/

 

[tophamn]

Its had one accident, but for the right price, I might go for it.

Be VERY careful! You might not care about previous accident damage, however minor, but future buyers will - so its value is definitely reduced. Find out what you think it might be worth without the damage (online car buying service?) then deduct a hefty margin - 20-30% at least. The only way I'd pay more is if it's warranted by Porsche and you intend keeping it for a long time.

 

[Stan]

Be VERY careful! You might not care about previous accident damage, however minor, but future buyers will - so its value is definitely reduced. Find out what you think it might be worth without the damage (online car buying service?) then deduct a hefty margin - 20-30% at least. The only way I'd pay more is if it's warranted by Porsche and you intend keeping it for a long time.

Thanks for the warning. Given that I've not owned a Porsche before, and the range is a bit low for road-tripping (though the density of charge stations continues to grow), I may not keep this car for a long time.

Does the fact that the car is CPO, and Porsche says that its 'Technically and mechanically tested' and 'Optically reburbished', make it any less risky that the car was in an accident? I guess that if I can get the car's history, I may be able to find out the extent of the accident.

Stan

 

[tophamn]

Thanks for the warning. Given that I've not owned a Porsche before, and the range is a bit low for road-tripping (though the density of charge stations continues to grow), I may not keep this car for a long time.

Does the fact that the car is CPO, and Porsche says that its 'Technically and mechanically tested' and 'Optically reburbished', make it any less risky that the car was in an accident? I guess that if I can get the car's history, I may be able to find out the extent of the accident.

Stan

It may be different in Canada but here in UK a car that has accident damage on its record is a liability, doubly so for a brand like Porsche: many people will just walk away and those that don't will want a bargain (because generally they can't afford a non-accident damage car) so consequently it will be worth less. With the assurances of a Porsche dealer, CPO, warranty, etc. you have some peace of mind but the car will never be worth what the same car without the history would be. Remember it's in the dealer's interests to talk up its value and play down the history (are they telling the whole story? - I know from bitter experience this isn't always the case) but it will be you having to explain it to a prospective buyer in future. I don't want to put you off but please go into this with your eyes open - if it's not significantly cheaper than a non-damaged car just walk away and find another one.

 

[whitex]

Thanks for the warning. Given that I've not owned a Porsche before, and the range is a bit low for road-tripping (though the density of charge stations continues to grow), I may not keep this car for a long time.

Is this your first EV? When coming from ICE everyone seems to have range anxiety. I’ve been driving EVs over a decade now. When I bought my Taycan, I picked it up from a dealer across the continent, drove it off the showroom floor 3500 miles (5600km) back home. Didn’t do any pre-planning for routes or charging, in the middle of winter (mid February 2023) - no problems. Charger situation has improved since then.

 

[Stan]

Is this your first EV? When coming from ICE everyone seems to have range anxiety. I’ve been driving EVs over a decade now. When I bought my Taycan, I picked it up from a dealer across the continent, drove it off the showroom floor 3500 miles (5600km) back home. Didn’t do any pre-planning for routes or charging, in the middle of winter (mid February 2023) - no problems. Charger situation has improved since then.

No, I've owned a Model 3 standard range and currently own a Model Y long range, and my wife and I usually do 2 road trips a year. However, I've only ever used Superchargers and J1772 chargers, so am not familiar with how well CCS chargers work in Canada and US (i.e. how busy are they, out-of-order, how many are there). As far as I know, Porsches can't use superchargers yet in Canada.

Stan

 

[whitex]

No, I've owned a Model 3 standard range and currently own a Model Y long range, and my wife and I usually do 2 road trips a year. However, I've only ever used Superchargers and J1772 chargers, so am not familiar with how well CCS chargers work in Canada and US (i.e. how busy are they, out-of-order, how many are there). As far as I know, Porsches can't use superchargers yet in Canada.

Stan

Supercharger access would be nice, as you won’t find 16 or 20 CCS chargers in one spot. But, so far I haven’t had any major issues. Worst ones are maybe limited rate under 100kW or having to wait 20m because everyone is sharing 2 plugs because the 3rd is broken and 4th has a Bolt charging to 100%. I will also add that the CCS charger availability has improved noticeably even over just the last couple of years. I did my 1st coast to coast in a Tesla in 2016 - I did my pre-planning for that one, but made it there and back no issues. Today’s CCS is way more available, so I never pre-plan anymore with my CCS EVs, except maybe look for places to stay with AC charging for convenience.

All this said, your experience may vary depending on where you drive. Use plugshare to see the density of >50kW chargers to give you an idea. As with Tesla, the chargers outside of city centers will be less busy (I remember having to wait with a Tesla in Toronto once, longest line I ever encountered, despite 8 or more stalls at that charger).

 

[Stan]

Supercharger access would be nice, as you won’t find 16 or 20 CCS chargers in one spot. But, so far I haven’t had any major issues. Worst ones are maybe limited rate under 100kW or having to wait 20m because everyone is sharing 2 plugs because the 3rd is broken and 4th has a Bolt charging to 100%. I will also add that the CCS charger availability has improved noticeably even over just the last couple of years. I did my 1st coast to coast in a Tesla in 2016 - I did my pre-planning for that one, but made it there and back no issues. Today’s CCS is way more available, so I never pre-plan anymore with my CCS EVs, except maybe look for places to stay with AC charging for convenience.

All this said, your experience may vary depending on where you drive. Use plugshare to see the density of >50kW chargers to give you an idea. As with Tesla, the chargers outside of city centers will be less busy (I remember having to wait with a Tesla in Toronto once, longest line I ever encountered, despite 8 or more stalls at that charger).

Thanks for the info. My province, British Columbia, is massive, and the vast majority of the population in the south. There are lots of superchargers where the population is, but none in the northern half of the province. But our provincial electricity utility, has CCS chargers throughout the province (though not nearly as dense as superchargers) probably because they're required to do this. I'm doing a road trip this fall up north close to Alaska using a combination of CCS and J1772 - hopefully in a Taycan if I get one in time.

Stan

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