Standard cruise control

[tigerbalm]

But I would like to be able to revert to standard cruise control in some settings - however I don’t think this is possible. If it is, please post how!

I haven't tried this as I'm happy with ACC (and sometimes InnoDrive), but I believe "limiter" mode is how you'd activate "traditional" cruise control – that holds you at a firm speed limit regardless of traffic conditions around you.

Edit: I was wrong in my interpretation of the "Limiter" option as confirmed by @Scandinavian and @Midlifecrisis below.

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[Scandinavian]

I haven't tried this as I'm happy with ACC (and sometimes InnoDrive), but I believe "limiter" mode is how you'd activate "traditional" cruise control – that holds you at a firm speed limit regardless of traffic conditions around you.

Is this not like in the BMW’s. You set a speed limit but you still need to drive the car with the gas pedal. However it will not exceed the set speed unless perhaps you push throttle pedal to the metal?

Quite useful when you encounter long road works with average speed limit control etc?

 

[xyeahtony]

theres something convenient about just being able to rest ur right foot in heavy traffic but that's just me.

 

[f1eng]

theres something convenient about just being able to rest ur right foot in heavy traffic but that's just me.

I can’t relax when the car is able to take control, my foot would be hovering over the brake, just in case…

 

[Midlifecrisis]

I haven't tried this as I'm happy with ACC (and sometimes InnoDrive), but I believe "limiter" mode is how you'd activate "traditional" cruise control – that holds you at a firm speed limit regardless of traffic conditions around you.

As per @Scandinavian, limiter is different. You drive the car using the pedals up to a pre set maximum where it cuts the power so you don’t go faster. You can set the figure yourself or you can let it track the speed limit. I don’t particularly like it although it does have its uses.

 

[TDinDC]

I can’t relax when the car is able to take control, my foot would be hovering over the brake, just in case…

Yes, that is what you are supposed to do, but no more so than you would if you were driving without it.

I think you have to be in the right mindset to use these tools correctly. They are not a driver replacement. They do not drive for you. They instead provide assistance that can materially reduce driver fatigue and make it easier for you to focus farther ahead on the road and to watch more closely for real risks, like other drivers and unexpected events (e.g., crashes, obstacles, etc.)

The more you use the tool, the more relaxed about the tool you will become, and the more useful it will be.

Settings are also key. I absolutely detested how the Taycan drove when I had the "recognize speed limits" feature turned on. Once I turned that off, the vehicle stopped slowing rapidly every time it detected a speed limit sign (even if it didn't apply to me or at that moment).

My sole complaint about the assistance systems are that they seems to have a narrow forward focus, and if your desired speed is set too far above the actual speed you are driving and you change lanes, the car will accelerate vigorously when you are in mid lane change because they think the gap between cars was actually open road when it really is not.

 

[Midlifecrisis]

ACC is the feature that made me realise why cars specced by Porsche as demonstrators and loaners have everything. I had one of their cars (maybe a test drive, I can’t remember) and discovered ACC by accident. I liked it and so I specced it. Some things I didn’t like so didn’t spec.

ACC is also one of those things that if you ask about on the forum, a few will dislike it, those who don’t have it can’t see the point and don’t miss it and those with it can’t live without it! There might even be someone who says it isn’t a proper Porsche without it ?

 

[TXSchnee]

I greatly dislike ACC, it isn't spec'd on my Taycan or Cayenne. I had ACC on my G01 X3 M40i, which worked fine, until you are on a busy freeway or tollway and it keeps going slower as cars cut you off. Have had ACC on loaner Cayenne and Macan, it is awful, mistakes oncoming vehicles on a curved section of road as being in front of you and slams on the brakes to "prevent a collison". I like regular, dumb cruise control, goes the speed I set and holds it. Feels as though I should state, I am a young Gen X (45 years old) and not afraid of technology, but ACC has too many flaws to be useful.

 

[magnitude]

I didn’t like the way

I may be totally wrong on this, but from what you've said so far in various threads about not just ACC, but also auto-recup and other things, I always get the impression that you have a driving style where even on a freeway, you drive up close to a car and then brake.

If that's the case (big if), realize that a lot of people don't like driving that way. Personally I always felt using the brakes on a highway/motorway is just plain "wrong" if traffic flows. Why do I put energy into the system just to burn it as heat in my brakes? (Engine braking and auto-recup still are a net energy loss of course, but it's basically optimized.)

I of course have no choice if traffic doesn't flow, i.e. in traffic jams, sudden lane incursions, things like that. But as long as traffic still flows, in an ICE I always just let off the accelerator early.

It's similar when I spot a red light from afar. I take the foot off the accelerator and let speed reduce as much as possible. If I'm lucky, the traffic light turns green and I haven't touched my brakes at all. If not, at least I haven't put any new energy in.

ACC and auto-recup work very well for those scenarios. In fact without auto-recup the Taycan barely slows down on its own at all (except from being on an incline), which is why auto-recup is basically a necessity for me.

Am I totally off the mark? It's just a slight impression, after all.

 

[TDinDC]

I greatly dislike ACC, it isn't spec'd on my Taycan or Cayenne. I had ACC on my G01 X3 M40i, which worked fine, until you are on a busy freeway or tollway and it keeps going slower as cars cut you off. Have had ACC on loaner Cayenne and Macan, it is awful, mistakes oncoming vehicles on a curved section of road as being in front of you and slams on the brakes to "prevent a collison". I like regular, dumb cruise control, goes the speed I set and holds it. Feels as though I should state, I am a young Gen X (45 years old) and not afraid of technology, but ACC has too many flaws to be useful.

I have never ever had anything remotely like this happen, and I have used ACC on various Porsches and under various conditions. Anecdotal I know but that sounds really weird. I don’t think that’s ACC, and you can adjust the sensitivity of collision avoidance.

 

[f1eng]

I may be totally wrong on this, but from what you've said so far in various threads about not just ACC, but also auto-recup and other things, I always get the impression that you have a driving style where even on a freeway, you drive up close to a car and then brake.

If that's the case (big if), realize that a lot of people don't like driving that way. Personally I always felt using the brakes on a highway/motorway is just plain "wrong" if traffic flows. Why do I put energy into the system just to burn it as heat in my brakes? (Engine braking and auto-recup still are a net energy loss of course, but it's basically optimized.)

I of course have no choice if traffic doesn't flow, i.e. in traffic jams, sudden lane incursions, things like that. But as long as traffic still flows, in an ICE I always just let off the accelerator early.

It's similar when I spot a red light from afar. I take the foot off the accelerator and let speed reduce as much as possible. If I'm lucky, the traffic light turns green and I haven't touched my brakes at all. If not, at least I haven't put any new energy in.

ACC and auto-recup work very well for those scenarios. In fact without auto-recup the Taycan barely slows down on its own at all (except from being on an incline), which is why auto-recup is basically a necessity for me.

Am I totally off the mark? It's just a slight impression, after all.

I hate to use the brakes. In normal driving I lift off early, but now with the Taycan I prefer coast and use the regen braking if needed.
I prefer coasting.
On the motorway I try to travel at a steady speed. That is why I hate adaptive on my car or any other.

The laws here are different than the US states I have driven in, and most motorways have 3 lanes.
The rule is to travel in the leftmost lane unless overtaking (we drive on the left). If approaching a slower vehicle, such as a truck, speed limited to 60mph here, you indicate, pull out into the middle lane, overtake then move back into the inside lane.

If there is more traffic the middle lane may have slower traffic too, so use the third lane.

Those are the rules, though loads of drivers don't follow them.

It is illegal to "undertake". ie overtake somebody in the middle or outer lane in an inner lane.

I pretty well stick to the rules so what irritates me about adaptive CC, and others using it, is that there I am, driving down the motorway at 70mph + tax on the inside lane, I approach a slower truck and a LONG way before I get to it my car starts to slow down so I either cancel CC, and then as I get nearer to the truck check the middle lane for traffic, indicate, move out, overtake and move back or I have to move into the middle lane a long way before having seen the truck way ahead and knowing my car will slow if I don't.

If there is a peloton of other cars ignoring the rules in the middle lane all on adaptive cruise they are usually all so close together I either can't pull out, and have to slow down, or pull into a small gap, shocking a driver who may not be paying much attention to driving.

The other irritating thing has often been finding a string of slowish cars in the centre lane, pulling into the outside lane to continue at my steady speed only to have the whole peloton speed up again leaving me either stuck with the string of cars on the other side this time or having to considerably exceed the speed limit tax...

It is cr*p IMO and getting worse as more cars are fitted with it and more drivers switch their brain into neutral and just sit in a peloton not paying much attention.

I didn't select adaptive CC on my Taycan so travelling at a steady speed in it works fine unless the peloton of central lane hoggers is encountered.

 

[tigerbalm]

I approach a slower truck and a LONG way before I get to it my car starts to slow down

How I handle this is that I have the "Assistance Systems" display open on the left most tube of the drivers display. I tend to run the ACC at "2 bars selected" distance.

As I approach a vehicle, I wait until the car icon on the display starts to move towards my two selected bars. Before it reaches it – I'll indicate and change into outside lane, to overtake. That way I keep my speed smooth and once the detected car doesn't reach your selected distance – it won't apply the brakes.

It sounds like a lot of effort – as I write it – but its become totally second nature to me – that I don't even realise I'm doing it.

While I don't like HUD's in cars – and I feel that the Taycan's driver display is positioned well enough to not require it – I will admit, that this way of using ACC might benefit from use of a HUD.

 

[f1eng]

How I handle this is that I have the "Assistance Systems" display open on the left most tube of the drivers display. I tend to run the ACC at "2 bars selected" distance.

As I approach a vehicle, I wait until the car icon on the display starts to move towards my two selected bars. Before it reaches it – I'll indicate and change into outside lane, to overtake. That way I keep my speed smooth and one the detected car doesn't reach your selected distance – it won't apply the brakes.

It sounds like a lot of effort – as I write it – but its become totally second nature to me – that I don't even realise I'm doing it.

While I don't like HUD's in cars – and I feel that the Taycan's driver display is positioned well enough to not require it – I will admit, that this way of using ACC might benefit from use of a HUD.

I either did something similar, which in the case of the car I had with ACC was way earlier than necessary, or disable CC for the duration.

Whichever way going back to a normal CC in the Taycan has been a breath of fresh air for me which was brought into sharp relief by using a different car which has it for a motorway trip whilst my Taycan is broken.

 

[TXSchnee]

I have never ever had anything remotely like this happen, and I have used ACC on various Porsches and under various conditions. Anecdotal I know but that sounds really weird. I don’t think that’s ACC, and you can adjust the sensitivity of collision avoidance.

This has happened in my BMW iX M60 (all driving aids turned off), happens in our Honda (all aids set to lowest sensitivity or off) and in every loaner I have gotten from Porsche Austin (only ACC on, driving aids turned off). It is similar to how a vehicle with ACC will slam on the brakes, instead of slowing down when someone ahead of you is making a right turn. This never happened on freeway/tollway, however on county highways (one lane each way, no median) with speed limits between 45mph-65mph it happens frequently. I generally turn on cruise control all the time, as smooth, steady driving nets the best range and/or mpg.

 

[W1NGE]

The other feature that I like is the dynamic speed limiter, particularly for UK roads where the speed limit change change without apparent change in road circumstance. If you're just about 60 mph on a great bit of road and don't spot it has reduced to 40 you can be in trouble. Still disconcerting that the car will slow itself down to 40 though

I find this feature downright dangerous and is reliant on signage (and mapping) being 100% correct. Too many times will the car see a temporary speed limit and comply accordingly and then not see the restriction end, or the wrong speed is registered and you experience heavy deceleration, not the fault of the tech per se but can catch you by surprise when you least expect it IMHO.

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