Lectron NACS to CCS1 adapter

[Zcd1]

A recent Tesla app update added several manufacturers to the “Charge your other EV” section:

Progress!

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[refazi]

DOES IT WORK?

 

[snstevens]

DOES IT WORK?

Being added to the Tesla app doesn't mean much yet. When you look for available SuC locations on the app only the ones supporting MagicDock appear for Porsche. And according to @whitex in his last post, Porsche isn't even on the "Coming Next" list yet.

 

[Zcd1]

Being added to the Tesla app doesn't mean much yet. When you look for available SuC locations on the app only the ones supporting MagicDock appear for Porsche. And according to @whitex in his last post, Porsche isn't even on the "Coming Next" list yet.

It's another step in the process of the Supercharger network opening up to other brands.

As someone who's experienced both the Supercharger and non-Supercharger DCFC networks in the US, Supercharger access can't come fast enough for the other brands, so signs of progress are welcome!

 

[Arcitekt]

I ordered the Tesla to CCS adaptor and received it a few weeks ago. Everything that has been said is true about the Tesla super chargers. It is up to Tesla and Porsche to allow the access to the super chargers without Magi Docks. Yes, you need an account on the Tesla which will unlock us to charge us to charge. For now ors cars have to registered as “Other EV’s” on the app. We have newest type super chargers near me at Buc-ees. Sometime I will try to connect, but certainly do not expect success. Also, I believe the charging rate will be closer to 150kw, not the 270kw possibility at EA or EVgo. In my experience with 150kw at EA chargers has resulted in about 8 extra minutes extra charging time. The adaptors will not matter at Super Chargers as there is software involved, but the Lectron adaptor is designed to meet and exceed the pending the safety standard to be released in the fall. The adaptor is rated to work with 1000v systems, maybe they know something that we don’t. After careful research, Lectron has seemed to nail it with their devices and their many positive video reviews online. I also have a designation Tesla to CCS adaptor in the front trunk just in case it is needed when traveling. One more thing to mention, the adaptors are built beautifully and appear almost indestructible. You will not be sorry with the purchase.

 

[BayouTiger]

I ordered the Tesla to CCS adaptor and received it a few weeks ago. Everything that has been said is true about the Tesla super chargers. It is up to Tesla and Porsche to allow the access to the super chargers without Magi Docks. Yes, you need an account on the Tesla which will unlock us to charge us to charge. For now ors cars have to registered as “Other EV’s” on the app. We have newest type super chargers near me at Buc-ees. Sometime I will try to connect, but certainly do not expect success. Also, I believe the charging rate will be closer to 150kw, not the 270kw possibility at EA or EVgo. In my experience with 150kw at EA chargers has resulted in about 8 extra minutes extra charging time. The adaptors will not matter at Super Chargers as there is software involved, but the Lectron adaptor is designed to meet and exceed the pending the safety standard to be released in the fall. The adaptor is rated to work with 1000v systems, maybe they know something that we don’t. After careful research, Lectron has seemed to nail it with their devices and their many positive video reviews online. I also have a designation Tesla to CCS adaptor in the front trunk just in case it is needed when traveling. One more thing to mention, the adaptors are built beautifully and appear almost indestructible. You will not be sorry with the purchase.

I'll be watching to see how this goes. We certainly live in a hole in the charging world. Not as bad as W. Va or Mississippi, but certainly not good. We see thousands of tourists this time of year at Dale Hollow and I'm guessing they are pretty shocked to find the dearth of infrastructure here.

 

[JoshuaEven]

Hey everyone. So what’s the word nowadays? If the Tesla app shows available superchargers for my Taycan with adapter, is it safe to assume I can actually charge there?

 

[Jonathan S.]

^ Be sure you've really specified Taycan in the drop-down menu (and not, say, a Ford, Rivian, or GM in your household). And the "with adapter" shouldn't make any difference, since we can't yet use an adapter with our Taycan (except of course for the integrated Magic Dock adapter).

Such stations can also be viewed here:
https://www.tesla.com/findus?v=2&bo...6797454748,-141.45410275&zoom=5&filters=party
... by selecting only Superchargers Open to Other EVS.

 

[Flying ace]

Not a lot of immediate usefulness anyways as they're all 400v units. Many J1 cars do not have the 400v booster to charge at 150kw. I view Tesla's network as a backup 50kw charger.

 

[Jonathan S.]

Not a lot of immediate usefulness anyways as they're all 400v units. Many J1 cars do not have the 400v booster to charge at 150kw. I view Tesla's network as a backup 50kw charger.

Yes, for pre-MY25 Taycans w/o the 150kW/400v option, Tesla Superchargers are pretty lame.
Otherwise though, given the dismal state of EA in New England, I always go to Magic Docks even when free EA stations are nearby. Even w/o EA reliability concerns, I get faster charging sessions from Magic Docks despite the max speed in the 130s. (And my wife's 400v i4 always hits its max charging curve, peaking at a little above 200kW.)

 

[Flying ace]

Yes, for pre-MY25 Taycans w/o the 150kW/400v option, Tesla Superchargers are pretty lame.
Otherwise though, given the dismal state of EA in New England, I always go to Magic Docks even when free EA stations are nearby. Even w/o EA reliability concerns, I get faster charging sessions from Magic Docks despite the max speed in the 130s. (And my wife's 400v i4 always hits its max charging curve, peaking at a little above 200kW.)

Awesome. The EV community benefits when Tesla finally opens up. My theory is many Audis, BMWs, domestics (and hopefully that hopelessly slow Bzx4 aka Bolt 2.0) will migrate over and remove the burden off EA, which will result in improved speeds and uptimes

 

[Jonathan S.]

^ I would have thought that the proliferation of Magic Docks (in some regions) and the opening up on most other V3 stations to Ford, Rivian, and GM would have relieved much of the congestion at EA stations. But instead, EA is expanding its Just Go Away program (i.e., arbitrarily limiting all drivers to 85% regardless of their kW draw, instead of just adding a time-based component), and anecdotal accounts outside of CA sure seem to indicate that EA stations are as busy as ever. Perhaps all the free charging plans are still a major factor? Also all those Hyundai / Kia / Genesis drivers will always be tempted by the siren song of the EA putative 350kW chargers since they're stuck in the 90s at Superchargers. (Lucids are maxed out at 50kW, but of course there aren't many of those to play a factor in station congestion.)

 

[daveo4EV]

^ I would have thought that the proliferation of Magic Docks (in some regions) and the opening up on most other V3 stations to Ford, Rivian, and GM would have relieved much of the congestion at EA stations. But instead, EA is expanding its Just Go Away program (i.e., arbitrarily limiting all drivers to 85% regardless of their kW draw, instead of just adding a time-based component), and anecdotal accounts outside of CA sure seem to indicate that EA stations are as busy as ever. Perhaps all the free charging plans are still a major factor? Also all those Hyundai / Kia / Genesis drivers will always be tempted by the siren song of the EA putative 350kW chargers since they're stuck in the 90s at Superchargers. (Lucids are maxed out at 50kW, but of course there aren't many of those to play a factor in station congestion.)

my rule with EA is they will find new ways to make things worse - they are quite innovative and aggressive on that front - they really seem to not understand the business they are in - and instead focus on the legally mandated reports and mandatory PR/marketing spending…

if you ask yourself: "what can I do to make people not want to purchase an EV and take it on road trips" - and then come up with answers to that question - I find EA's approach to be very predictable/logical when approached with perspective.

I'm not sure they understand the business they are supposed to be in - but I'm certain they understand who they work for - and they work for a legacy industry that really really wants this whole EV transition to just be a bad dream so they can go back to tweaking ICE horsepower and exhaust note to differentiate their products…that industry is after all the one cutting the check - and the toothless consent decree they are operating under focused on mandated announcement schedules rather than operational competence…

but I'm sure EA works great and I'm just a sour puss.

 

[Jonathan S.]

Alas that does seem to explain EA. Except that VW has been making an aggressive push with EV models, and ditto with Audi. Plus Porsche to a significant extent. I’m surprised that the U.S. subsidiaries of those VAG marques can’t somehow get VW to improve the performance of EA.

 

[snstevens]

Not to be too simplistic about it, but I think capitalistism and the role of competition is what will actually make this situation improve. If EA has/had a stranglehold on the CCS market then why bother to focus on customer experience?

I think we'll all look back on this in 5 years as a non-issue, and yet we'll wonder why it took so long to get a solid charging infrastructure in place.

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