What is your Taycan Range after X miles, Let's get some data

[Kayone73]

Mine: 2021 Taycan RWD, after 120000 milds in moderate weather has 240 on Normal Drive and 153 on Range Drive. BTW, I have been using the EA 150KW charger exclusively.

2021 4S Cross Turismo

Getting 250-260 miles range with 14K miles on the clock.

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[dickp]

2022 Taycan 4 CT 28K miles. Just charged to 100% today & range was showing at 278.

 

[Windpower]

2022 Taycan RWD about 10k miles on summer 21” tires.
Went to a wedding in New Jersey over the weekend. Hot so the A/C was on the entire trip.
Started with 100%, drove 241 miles, guess-o-meter showing 53 miles still available. I think the 53 mile number is pretty accurate since I kept an eye on miles to go in Waze and miles available in the PCM. Both tracked well.
Note: on my Tesla Y, while I think the potential range is about the same as the Taycan, I am getting killed with phantom power drain. I need to charge after driving 120 miles over a week.

 

[Eric]

June 2020 - 270 miles effective range tested with a Trip to Santa Barbra area from SF Bay area - all season tires (factory Continental's)
Oct. 2022 - 210-220 miles effective range - 13 fast charging stops 11 days - 2,500 miles - SF Bay Area to Eastern Washington, Seattle and back - Goodyear Summer performance tires
June 2023 - 235-245 miles effective range - 2 fast charging stops 2 days - 500 miles - Santa Cruz to willows, CA and back - (back to Factory Continental's) - 34,xxx miles on the vehicle - 221 mile drive from Willows arrive home @ 11% indicated SOC…

Total Trip Data according in car PCM display (again 34,xxx total miles)
812:28 hours
24594 miles
3.0 miles/kWh
31 mph average speed

right now sitting at EA charger in Santa Cruz, CA (Trader Joes) 230 indicated miles @ 99% SOC.

Mine is always around 225 at 90% SOC using city driving and full blast airco in south florida

 

[gtm]

Somewhat related, I was curious as to how the Tesla GOM works, and apparently now it just uses the EPA rating, no matter how the driver's historical mi/kWh vary from that, or no matter how the navigated route compares to the EPA conceptual route.

Only semi true. The displayed range on the instrument cluster is always the current battery capacity (SoC), as calculated by the BMS, and the EPA rated consumption. The in-car route planner displayed on the center screen is claimed to take into account weather, elevation changes, traffic estimates and possibly a few other things. The arrival estimate is displayed in % of battery remaining. I find it pretty accurate. On the center screen I can also look at my estimated range remaining (in miles) based on the average consumption over the past 5, 15 or 30 miles. Lots of mileage/range info available that does take into account the real world conditions and driving habits.

 

[Jonathan S.]

^ Interesting, thx. So essentially, it's ... ignore the remaining range estimate, but trust (mainly) the trip planner.

 

[gtm]

^ Interesting, thx. So essentially, it's ... ignore the remaining range estimate, but trust (mainly) the trip planner.

Depends on how you want to look at range. Unless you are putting on a lot of miles in a day trip planners are kind of worthless in any EV. For road trips in our Tesla I don't even bother to consider range really. Put in the destination and let the car do the calculating. Usually a bio break is needed way before the car wants to stop. When my co-pilot says it's time to stop I just tap the dash, up pop Superchargers on the route (and unlike Porsche the map is big, easy to read and it's obvious where the superchargers are), pick one, get a charge and let the car recalculate. Tesla has made the process really sooth and easy both in the way the car works and with the availability of Superchargers. For every day use I just look at the instrument cluster mileage remaining. I'm averaging better efficiency than the EPA figure so I know the dash range is conservative. Going out and knowing I'll be having some fun and I know the dash is optimistic and can plan accordingly. Works for the Porsche too.

Edit: I guess what I'm saying is that if you know what's behind a measurement you know how to use the information.

 

[Jonathan S.]

^ Tesla definitely has the charging network and also the integration. I’ll be fine though with just the 4CT range and my own calculations if Tesla reaches an agreement with VAG for CCS access. (Even merely the W Lebanon NH and St J VT would be sufficient!)

 

[RTH]

Depends on how you want to look at range. Unless you are putting on a lot of miles in a day trip planners are kind of worthless in any EV. For road trips in our Tesla I don't even bother to consider range really. Put in the destination and let the car do the calculating. Usually a bio break is needed way before the car wants to stop. When my co-pilot says it's time to stop I just tap the dash, up pop Superchargers on the route (and unlike Porsche the map is big, easy to read and it's obvious where the superchargers are), pick one, get a charge and let the car recalculate. Tesla has made the process really sooth and easy both in the way the car works and with the availability of Superchargers. For every day use I just look at the instrument cluster mileage remaining. I'm averaging better efficiency than the EPA figure so I know the dash range is conservative. Going out and knowing I'll be having some fun and I know the dash is optimistic and can plan accordingly. Works for the Porsche too.

Edit: I guess what I'm saying is that if you know what's behind a measurement you know how to use the information.

In N. Cal Bay Area, I am spending almost the same $/mile between my Cayenne Diesel and the Taycan (since I don't have solar charging). So for long trips, I take my Cayenne. It's a more comfortable trip car anyway. But up and down Hwy 1 along the coast, can't beat the Taycan.

 

[WasserGKuehlt]

[…] So for long trips, I take my Cayenne. It's a more comfortable trip car anyway.

Interesting remark. I haven’t spent more than 20min in a Cayenne, but have driven a Macan for ~35k miles. I’d assume they have a similar driving position and road manners.

I find that the most comfortable car I’ve ever driven is the Taycan - by quite a bit. The next best is my 996, which loses purely on road noise. To me, driving position, visibility and noise are the definition of ‘comfort’ - and the Taycan is very close to the 911 on the first two. It’s not that the Macan’s seats are like a pew, but a lower, legs-stretched position seems more relaxed.

 

[B61]

BTW, my dealer just told me that on average, Taycan loses 10% of the SOH in the first year of average annual driven mileage (12000 miles?). Unfortunately, we don't know if the initial SOH of the 93.4Wh battery was indeed 3.7 as Porsche reports. (There are discussion that it is actually more.) So we can never really know what the %loss of the SOH is after i.e. @12000 miles. What are your experiences by estimation?

Just about three weeks ago, I had 1st maintenance @30k km.
CT4, 21” wheels, summer tyres
SoH: 89%.
Overall average consumption 18,1 kwh/100km (that’s not possible at all, Imdon’t know how they calculate that)
Guessometer says: 413 km at 100% SoC (during winter, on 20” winter tyres: about 370 km)

i was charging only up to @22kwh, but i don’t think that fast chargers have some serious influence on SoH. As i wrote before, there’s a three year old RWD with 160k km, SoH 86%, charging on fast chargers only.

 

[RTH]

1.5 years of data with every AC charge plotting max 'guessometer' ranges for Normal and Range modes with AC off after each charge to 85% and calculating to 100%. Car's parameters listed below.

I need to update the chart i.e. timescale slid slightly with last entries but picture fairly obvious. Good example re how your 'stye of driving' (can explain what I mean by this if needed) can massively impact the Guessometer's prediction included

These data have been reported in numerous threads over the last year+ and maintained/updated regularly in this thread:

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/baseline-for-hv-battery-soh-performance.12815/

Some additional outputs and graphs etc here although these charts have not been updated here since last posted:

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/charge-range-and-efficiency-one-years-data.14903/

@RTH
I would REALY like to get a SoH reading from your car - it would be the clear 'leader' for total miles driven in the chart in the first link above, so of immense interest, and to be frank, a much more interesting data point than the somewhat erratic guessometer estimates discussed here.

Do you by chance have a compatible OBDII reader - takes seconds to read out with the free CarScanner app.

Example of a compatible scanner:

https://www.amazon.com/stores/Vgate...ef_=ast_bln&store_ref=bl_ast_dp_brandLogo_sto

@ciaranob , Do you have the Vgate OBDII also. And do you have it plugged in all the time while you use the car daily? Is it safe to do so?

 

[Bigal1267]

 

[ciaranob]

@ciaranob , Do you have the Vgate OBDII also. And do you have it plugged in all the time while you use the car daily? Is it safe to do so?

Have that tool but no, only use it to take a reading every now and then (not left in).

 

[tchavei]

I have mine plugged in all the time (or I would lose it) but it deactivates itself after a few hours.

When want to occasionally take a reading, I quickly unplug and re plug it to activate it and it instantly works with car scanner.

The rest of the time it just passively sits there.

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