Kingske
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It is impressive - a similar post was made a couple of months ago. Note that the battery is appreciably larger than that in the Taycan with Performance Battery Plus.
I essentially agree with all of this although, with this sort of range, I guess the point is that you would not be limited to having to stop at a charging location, right? These ranges would thus truly wipe out range anxiety for most. And re looks I really dislike the design and could never be happy with it.Very impressive range! Someone brought up a valid point on it tho, It’s not likely that anyone will need that 500 mile range in one go. If you are on a long road trip, most people will have to stop to eat/restroom/rest before going that far, and you might as well charge at that point. It’s still good to see it can be done. I think 300-400 miles is the sweet point on range.
The car, yes, is not very attractive on the outside. I call it the Sunday grandpa driver. Very boring and out of date/style looking. Inside tho is amazing.
Plenty of people have very real needs for 500 mile range though. For me, it takes ~140 miles one way to get to my in-laws with no fast charger between us. Even in ideal weather, that makes it mildly risky to try and do in a Taycan, and outright impossible without a stop in the winter. With a 500 mile car, I can easily make that trip, even with a 30% loss to winter conditions.Very impressive range! Someone brought up a valid point on it tho, It’s not likely that anyone will need that 500 mile range in one go. If you are on a long road trip, most people will have to stop to eat/restroom/rest before going that far, and you might as well charge at that point. It’s still good to see it can be done. I think 300-400 miles is the sweet point on range.
I would like to have that range available. Not for normal day yo day trips I agree. But if you would go for a trip to go skiing in the north of Sweden for instance, there are NO HPC chargers. And the North East of France is no better. I agree with the view that for a trip you would not go more that 3 hours without a a biological break etc. But from a practical perspective I would love that.Very impressive range! Someone brought up a valid point on it tho, It’s not likely that anyone will need that 500 mile range in one go. If you are on a long road trip, most people will have to stop to eat/restroom/rest before going that far, and you might as well charge at that point. It’s still good to see it can be done. I think 300-400 miles is the sweet point on range.
The car, yes, is not very attractive on the outside. I call it the Sunday grandpa driver. Very boring and out of date/style looking. Inside tho is amazing.
I’m not arguing against the range. It’s nice! I’m just saying for going in one shot, most (not all) wouldn’t need it. If the charging infrastructure was better, it wouldn’t really be needed, but as it is, yes, this range would make plenty of EV trips possible that aren’t or are a bit sketchy to do right now. That’s all I’m saying. It is impressive, and some have need of it for sure, but just looking at most people’s use (at least US anyway, forgive me for not considering beyond in my initial post).Plenty of people have very real needs for 500 mile range though. For me, it takes ~140 miles one way to get to my in-laws with no fast charger between us. Even in ideal weather, that makes it mildly risky to try and do in a Taycan, and outright impossible without a stop in the winter. With a 500 mile car, I can easily make that trip, even with a 30% loss to winter conditions.
I hate the argument that 500 miles is more than you need, since you're not going to travel that far without stopping though. That's exactly why it's so great, I don't need to make any extra stops, ever, and it means that if a charger is offline, no big deal, I can just go to the next one.
500 miles means I can charge to 80% every day, and still have the range to go out and do a spontaneous trip after work without having to worry about where will I charge.
A massive technological breakthrough? No. But a generational advance yes. A smaller battery for the same range and smaller motors with less weight opens up huge possibilities. Just imagine the handling in a Taycan with 500/1000 lbs. less weight.But is it due to any massive technological break-trough? Yes it has a lot of range, but its also got a much bigger battery than any of the competition. It kinda makes sense that it should go longer. And however nice that is, its just not an attractive car to me. It looks so damn… Lincoln… ish! For lack of a better word.