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After getting my car repatriated from Stockholm after the two module battery repair, we set out for another visit to Stockholm. And from there it will be onwards to Norway in a few weeks. I will not have a detailed trip report with photos this time. I was curoius to see how the car would perform after repair, and also how it would perform on 20 Inch Pirelli NFO winter tyres. First time on a long trip with the winter tyres.
Tyre reflection Pirelli NFO EV winter 20 inch.
The Pirelli‘s performed very well in the challenging conditions. We started in 20- 22 C sunny conditions through Italy. I lost count of the number of tunnels after about 90 tunnels and nearly as many roadworks. Then through Switzerland where it started to drizzle the temperature fell to 7C and below during the night. Entering the St Gotthard Road tunnel , 17 km long, at 6 C and suddenly driving in 34C in the tunnel was a very weird experience.
On the Autobahn in Germany the tyres were flawless at my speeds up to 200 km/h. They feel slightly softer and not as sharp as the 21 inch Good Years Assymetric, which was expected. No huge difference though. Some very strong breaking was also no problem. Quiet and pleasant driving in both wet and dry conditions. On the rougher road surface in Sweden the were quieter than the Good Year Summer tyres!
Now hoping for some snow experience!
Charging experience.
We aimed to mainly utilise Ionity chargers on the road trip, unless the stops would be inconvenient. The charging infrastructure through Switzerland and Germany, is excellent with many choices. Ionity, EnBW, Aral, Fastned, Allego and a few more. And all are available through the Porsche Charging Service. As a strong second alternative we had Tesla Open for All listed. Considering we drove in the middle of the week in early November, it was surprising how many Ionity stations were occupied. Out of 6 stations available, only 1 or 2 would be free when we arrived. Ionity need to increase their number of stations to cater for next years peak summer traffic. All brands including surprisingly many Tesla’s at the stations. Very good charging etiquette though. The Ionity stations have lights that display the level of charge and nearly all disconnected at about 4/5 charge levels. Well disciplined queueing also even if there was a lack of space to park and wait.
PCM navigation ??
Since we wanted as quick passage as possible we started out by using the PCM Charge Planning and avail of the automatic battery preheating. I had programmed all the trips available Ionity stations as favourites in the system so I knew where they were. It was easy to check the automatic planning that way. For each day trip the correct Ionity stations stop were confirmed. HOWEVER the very frequent Map Updates replanned the charging stops so many times that I gave up that approach. The worst example was one stop that was replanned without being noticed. It choose an unknown network with 2 (two) connectors rather than a 8 charger Ionity about 12 km earlier. Needless to say one charger was not working and the other one occupied!. Until Porsche will update the nav system with filters so you can set minimum no of chargers and also filter out ONLY Ionity stations, I will give it a miss. Surprisingly enough the app has a filter to only choose Ionity when planning a route. But when sending that to the car, the car recalculates the route and chooses new stations. Irritating.
Tronity and ABRP app experience
Porsche have recently open up access to more API’s. So I wanted to try out two apps ABRP and Tronity. But apps of course rely on the Taycan having correct LTE connections at all times, to be able to give correct results. Unfortunately that was not always the case. There were problems with roaming at every country border were the system was slow to reconnect unfortunately? Something I need to get checked since it has worked fine after the last big update.
ABRP has always been great for planning since you can set strict filters. And it works excellent with CarPlay! Choosing Ionity only and stations with minimum 4 or 6 stations was great. And ABRP now utilises the connection to Porsche to give you the battery SoC with perhaps a minutes delay, but very accurate. It also will display the charging stop SoC based on information of the car’s actual consumption. I found this to be as accurate as the PCM estimates. But with out the constant irritating Map updates and replanning!
Overall this worked very well and I preferred to use it.
There Are however some features that will not be as good as the PCM navigation.
1. No automatic preheating of battery when navigating to a charging station. Can be overcome to certain degree by using SportPlus driving.
2. No navigation in instrument display middle tube.
3. Since it does not utilise the car’s dead reckoning system when navigating, driving in longer tunnel systems, can give some interesting placement of car on the map!
Tronity
Tronity was a new experience for me, and I was impressed. It documented our trip quite well. Except issues when the car lost data connections as mentioned earlier.
There was a lot of information navailable. It gave me the driving routes, with information about speed, altitude, temperature with both data and also graphic form
It also documented the charging stops, times, places, kWh added, charging speeds and cost estimates. And all this without any manual input at all! Slightly off with charges if you cross into different countries and currency, but it gives the basic kWh reasonably accurate. And it does not matter if you charge at Ionity, Tesla, other networks not in Porsche Charging. Or if you charge at AC or DC, hotel, restaurant etc etc. Very useful and can be recommended if you fancy a lot of statistics.
To get these features, both apps require a small subscription fee, which in my mind is very well worth it. Interesting is that Tronity did pick up my extremely weird consumption data before the battery failed, which Porsche web or app did not notice at all!! That data could have warned me actually about something not quite right.
I hope you will find this information informative and useful.
Please give me some feedback!
Tyre reflection Pirelli NFO EV winter 20 inch.
The Pirelli‘s performed very well in the challenging conditions. We started in 20- 22 C sunny conditions through Italy. I lost count of the number of tunnels after about 90 tunnels and nearly as many roadworks. Then through Switzerland where it started to drizzle the temperature fell to 7C and below during the night. Entering the St Gotthard Road tunnel , 17 km long, at 6 C and suddenly driving in 34C in the tunnel was a very weird experience.
On the Autobahn in Germany the tyres were flawless at my speeds up to 200 km/h. They feel slightly softer and not as sharp as the 21 inch Good Years Assymetric, which was expected. No huge difference though. Some very strong breaking was also no problem. Quiet and pleasant driving in both wet and dry conditions. On the rougher road surface in Sweden the were quieter than the Good Year Summer tyres!
Now hoping for some snow experience!
Charging experience.
We aimed to mainly utilise Ionity chargers on the road trip, unless the stops would be inconvenient. The charging infrastructure through Switzerland and Germany, is excellent with many choices. Ionity, EnBW, Aral, Fastned, Allego and a few more. And all are available through the Porsche Charging Service. As a strong second alternative we had Tesla Open for All listed. Considering we drove in the middle of the week in early November, it was surprising how many Ionity stations were occupied. Out of 6 stations available, only 1 or 2 would be free when we arrived. Ionity need to increase their number of stations to cater for next years peak summer traffic. All brands including surprisingly many Tesla’s at the stations. Very good charging etiquette though. The Ionity stations have lights that display the level of charge and nearly all disconnected at about 4/5 charge levels. Well disciplined queueing also even if there was a lack of space to park and wait.
PCM navigation ??
Since we wanted as quick passage as possible we started out by using the PCM Charge Planning and avail of the automatic battery preheating. I had programmed all the trips available Ionity stations as favourites in the system so I knew where they were. It was easy to check the automatic planning that way. For each day trip the correct Ionity stations stop were confirmed. HOWEVER the very frequent Map Updates replanned the charging stops so many times that I gave up that approach. The worst example was one stop that was replanned without being noticed. It choose an unknown network with 2 (two) connectors rather than a 8 charger Ionity about 12 km earlier. Needless to say one charger was not working and the other one occupied!. Until Porsche will update the nav system with filters so you can set minimum no of chargers and also filter out ONLY Ionity stations, I will give it a miss. Surprisingly enough the app has a filter to only choose Ionity when planning a route. But when sending that to the car, the car recalculates the route and chooses new stations. Irritating.
Tronity and ABRP app experience
Porsche have recently open up access to more API’s. So I wanted to try out two apps ABRP and Tronity. But apps of course rely on the Taycan having correct LTE connections at all times, to be able to give correct results. Unfortunately that was not always the case. There were problems with roaming at every country border were the system was slow to reconnect unfortunately? Something I need to get checked since it has worked fine after the last big update.
ABRP has always been great for planning since you can set strict filters. And it works excellent with CarPlay! Choosing Ionity only and stations with minimum 4 or 6 stations was great. And ABRP now utilises the connection to Porsche to give you the battery SoC with perhaps a minutes delay, but very accurate. It also will display the charging stop SoC based on information of the car’s actual consumption. I found this to be as accurate as the PCM estimates. But with out the constant irritating Map updates and replanning!
Overall this worked very well and I preferred to use it.
There Are however some features that will not be as good as the PCM navigation.
1. No automatic preheating of battery when navigating to a charging station. Can be overcome to certain degree by using SportPlus driving.
2. No navigation in instrument display middle tube.
3. Since it does not utilise the car’s dead reckoning system when navigating, driving in longer tunnel systems, can give some interesting placement of car on the map!
Tronity
Tronity was a new experience for me, and I was impressed. It documented our trip quite well. Except issues when the car lost data connections as mentioned earlier.
There was a lot of information navailable. It gave me the driving routes, with information about speed, altitude, temperature with both data and also graphic form
It also documented the charging stops, times, places, kWh added, charging speeds and cost estimates. And all this without any manual input at all! Slightly off with charges if you cross into different countries and currency, but it gives the basic kWh reasonably accurate. And it does not matter if you charge at Ionity, Tesla, other networks not in Porsche Charging. Or if you charge at AC or DC, hotel, restaurant etc etc. Very useful and can be recommended if you fancy a lot of statistics.
To get these features, both apps require a small subscription fee, which in my mind is very well worth it. Interesting is that Tronity did pick up my extremely weird consumption data before the battery failed, which Porsche web or app did not notice at all!! That data could have warned me actually about something not quite right.
I hope you will find this information informative and useful.
Please give me some feedback!
