Cross Turisimo Range ?

[ciaranob]

All of these range threads are always lacking key information to make any logic of the data presented.

Ambient temperature is good, but without listing the battery PB or PB+, the version Taycan, and the wheel option (std 19 all season, Mission E summer, etc) the data is like comparing apples and oranges. These variables can change the expected range by 30% alone.

Indeed - tried to suggest setting up a thread with related info but had no bites

Here is an example of a report I did for 'real world' (read real world comfort ) 'consumptive' range in my CT4S with 21" Perf summer tires. As you say, context in respect a wide range of internal -external variable is key!

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/my-real-world-consumptive-test-ct-4s.9096/

I have noticed that my car's 'predicted' ranges have steadily creeped up from ca. 204 new to 240+ miles now after ca. 1400 miles of driving to date with fairly consistent setup being in Normal mode (but ride height at lowest), external temps from 35F-70F (mostly in middle range), climate control on a mix of std. A/C to ECO mode, minimal elevation changes (Houston!) etc. Trip lengths on teh lower side with a few less than 200 mile outings to date (need to work on that!). Equivalent max. Range mode calculations (again predictive not consumptive) now over 250 miles. I regualrly charge to 85% and have only on three occasions charged to 100%.

Given my spec I am actually quite happy with this and suspect with more battery conditioning I might squeeze out some more yet (only once have I dropped to 20% SoC believe it or not - usually above 40%!).

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[B61]

400-410km.
last night, we had +7, car parked outside, under the roof.
MY21, 8000KM, 20”winter tires.
(I drive in Range mode almost all of the time)

Update. 400km was predicted when charged at 100%.
Real life:
I spent 93%, made 316km (28km still available), average consumption 23,8kwh/100km, average speed 56 km/h.

 

[Bobrae99]

Range is dumb - the only thing people ask me about. You can’t get amazing range with the crazy wide tires on the taycan - think that is that holds it back the most and gives you performance. Put on some bicycle tires and you get range, but trade off is handling. I don’t buy Porsches for range and my 993 gets the same range on a tank of gas, but then it’s 10x cost to fuel.

But you can refill the 993 in 10 minutes. Not so with the Taycan, hence all the discussion about range.

 

[philbur]

But you can refill the 993 in 10 minutes. Not so with the Taycan, hence all the discussion about range.

it takes 15-20 mins in the taycan depending on the charger.. for all our daily needs we charge at home, so we charge 0 mins of waiting time. On longer road trips we do charge, but the difference is managable. Also - when we charge we go eat lunch, or go to a store and do other things - pumping gas you just wait around attached to the pump. I think there is a much bigger difference than just time that people obsess about. Also - electricity is 1/10th the cost! and the cost of gas fluctuates. Everytime i have to go to fill up the 993 i think about how nice the taycan is to energize [excuse the bias - i love electric cars for how they help move the world forward!]

 

[bsclywilly]

It seems I’m on the low end of range at 230mi@100% (368km). A bit over 3000mi on the odo and ambient temps in the 50s (10-15C). Mostly hwy cruising at ~80mph and some spirited driving.

Range anxiety was a real thing, but just for the first month of ownership since this was our first EV. I agree, focus on range is dumb. The bit of extra planning to map out chargers for long road trips is really not a big deal.

Recently we had family over for a couple weeks and frequently making day trips with our two vehicles around 180-200mi and I don’t think I checked the range once since we started each day on a full charge. On the other hand, our gas SUV was actually more of a hassle having to stop for gas mid trip or making dedicated trips in the evening to top it off for the next day.

 

[911mantas]

During the winter (0-10C) I manage to get 300-320km range at full charge (Taycan Cross Turismo, R20).

 

[W1NGE]

good to know, thanks

then for this thread it just really comes down to the 30 miles of range variation for wheel and tire configuration

Ambient temp - Florida will always score miles over UK / Europe.

Also need to know if AC is active and at what temp, drive mode selected, etc when the readings are taken.

In the end it's a pointless exercise. Charge as you need to and don't worry about it.

 

[mdrobc1213]

Have not tested a full 100% discharge but have seen the expected range climb over time. This is the last charge cycle (CT4):

Mirrors what I have seen when I charge to 90 SOC which is where I normally do when I plug in at night during the week.

 

[XKSS]

Here in the UK, now it's warming up I'm seeing 135/140 miles at 50% so a comfortable 265/275 miles range- my guess is about 285/290 with a full charge in mid-summer (CT4 20" wheels)

 

[W1NGE]

Here in the UK, now it's warming up I'm seeing 135/140 miles at 50% so a comfortable 265/275 miles range- my guess is about 285/290 with a full charge in mid-summer (CT4 20" wheels)

I’ll eat my hat if that’s the case!

I once had 280 miles @ 100% before I turned a wheel. That rapidly changed in a few short miles to 250 once the battery temp had settled.

Hopefully I’m wrong but I doubt 290 anywhere in UK. Sadly, the battery range never works out according to the maths.

 

[B61]

I’ll eat my hat if that’s the case!

and i’ll join to your lunch
with 20” tires, i was getting up to 410km/100% SoC.
with 21”, up to 380km/100%.

 

[BigBob]

I’ll eat my hat if that’s the case!

I once had 280 miles @ 100% before I turned a wheel. That rapidly changed in a few short miles to 250 once the battery temp had settled.

Hopefully I’m wrong but I doubt 290 anywhere in UK. Sadly, the battery range never works out according to the maths.

My CT4S is showing more like 210m with a full charge (extrapolating from 85% charge). Generally driven in sport with AC set to about 20 on auto. 20 inch wheels.

 

[W1NGE]

You should easily see 230 - 250 tops between now and the height of summer once you've added a few more miles. In the early days I maxed at 225 miles.

 

[XKSS]

In reply guys - no need to eat your hats but I recently (mid-February) drove a regular journey to North Devon (Croyde) distance is 220 miles - I left with 98% charge and drove a mix of mororway and A roads - 2 passengers and luggage - I arrived in Devon with 15% charge left - 98% less 15% residual means I used 83% to do 220 miles in 10 degrees C in February - equates to 265 miles range - car showed 2.7 miles/ kwh - drove most of the way in Range and AC on Eco.
I had set off after an overnight charge so the battery was warm I recall.

 

[W1NGE]

In reply guys - no need to eat your hats but I recently (mid-February) drove a regular journey to North Devon (Croyde) distance is 220 miles - I left with 98% charge and drove a mix of mororway and A roads - 2 passengers and luggage - I arrived in Devon with 15% charge left - 98% less 15% residual means I used 83% to do 220 miles in 10 degrees C in February - equates to 265 miles range - car showed 2.7 miles/ kwh - drove most of the way in Range and AC on Eco.
I had set off after an overnight charge so the battery was warm I recall.

"Equates" is the operative word and unless brave enough to run dry you'll never know for sure!

I'm also reasonably sceptical of the merits of Range as I used to use it all the time and now only on occasion as the consumption with alternative routes and driving modes is typically within a % or the same. Originally (before the big recalls) Range was more effective.

In winter I suspect I will revert to using it to reduce the AC heating consumption and less on both motors.

265 is great but apologies if I sound a little cynical.

Since day 1 to now my consumption has been 3.1 miles per kWh (12,000 miles) which suggests 272 miles per 100% charge - I don't trust that number but encouraged none the less.

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